No one has said anything like that. And yet people keep repeating it.
keep repeating the accusation, that is
FWIW, I think I was the one who brought up the term “hysterical pregnancy”. I meant no disrespect-I was simply wondering if it had been what is known medically as a false pregnancy-all the symptoms of being pregnant, when one is not.
I think the whole idea of pitting Dtc on this issue was incorrect. Dtc stated his opinion. While the forum that he did it might have been wrong, his opinion no doubt has validity.
I agree that grief is something individual. It is similar to people feeling pain from an injury. There are a few who feel acute pain in something as simple as a pin prick, and there are some on the other extreme who do not even wince. But one has to remember that there is something called “norm”.
If an adult shrieks and howls in pain when getting a shot, while he is entitled to feeling and exhibiting his discomfort in whatever way he feels fit, he is certainly not within norms, and people are likely to call him a wuss.
In much the same manner, extreme grief at losing a pregnancy is not the same as losing an actual born child.
On an average, on a comparative basis, a person normally feels less grief in the earlier stages of losing a child than when he is older. Grief at losing something or someone is usually proportional to the intyensity and length of association. The less the association or intensity, the less is the grief likely to be.
If the grief at losing an unborn child and an infant were the same how do you explain the accepted and common practice of abortion?
This is a lie.
But despite not reading those threads, you choose to express an opinion about that.
You belong to a certain class of people who open their mouth before having all the informatio, and then hide behind not doing any research when called on. I believe “idiot” is too mild a word to describe you.
Once again someone pops up to suggest that Diogenes somehow earns automatic dispensation because it’s his opinion and, for some reason, it’s always appropriate to share your opinions.
Huh?
No one has tried to assert this.
What part din’t you understand?
You have perhaps failed to note that I have agreed to the idea that perhaps it was the wrong forum for Dtc’s post. At the same time, I do not agree to the pile on against the point he has made. For the normal population losing a pregnancy carries far less grief than losing someone who is live.
You should let a mod know you want the thread closed. Since you can’t report your own post, you can report this one using the alarming triangle in the upper right corner.
Dio has apologized in the original thread and has addmitted he was wrong to post what he did several times. What more does anyone want?
Dio, I think it’s about time you come down from your passive-aggressive cross and tell us what perspective you’re coming from.
You compared SadDad’s loss of a “hypothetical” child to the pain of losing an ACTUAL child. Now sir, have you, ever, lost an actual child? Because if you haven’t, you are truly talking out of your ass.
Trunk asserted this back toward the bottom of page one.
Wisernow, the only thing in your post I agree with is the following:
That was exactly the point of the OP, which perhaps you didn’t read thoroughly. His opinion has validity; hell, several people (including myself) share it. My Pitting was an attempt to point out that he needed to keep his fool mouth shut in the MPSIMS thread. The rest of your post is too ridiculous to even address, as it goes right back to the idea of a grief hierarchy and attempting to normalize (based on your opinions) an emotion that is not rational.
Larry, thank you, I have already reported this to a mod, via a post above my last one. And (just in case you were asking me), I don’t want anything else- his apology in the MPSIMS thread was sufficient.
This is crap. Have you ever tried to pour pesto out over your hair? If not, could you still say that it’s not as bad as losing a child?
What exactly did he say that makes you think so?
I figured that. The second part of my post was addressed to the general “you” or you all, specifically all of those who continue the pile-on even though Dio has apologized.
Bolding mine.
Oh, right. I mistakenly thought we were talking about the "both of them have been scoffed at for mourning for “an empty yolk sac,” statement. This layered quotes thing can be confusing.
Anyway, let’s make a new thread and pit Trunk then.
But that’s the exact point. You can’t compare grief, and different people can feel different amounts of grief over the same thing. Quantifying emotion to this extent this simply absurd. People feel what they feel, and suggesting to someone to his face that he ought to respond differently to his personal tragedy because of your own internalized political beliefs is simply absurd.
And less painful yet is losing a pet. So? It still sucks when a pet dies.
The fact that other, bigger tragedies exist doesn’t make someone’s own pain less legitimate. You’re still arguing the merits of what Diogenes said - that a miscarriage isn’t as bad as losing a child - which means that you think the validity of his opinion is in question. If the validity of his opinion is at issue, then you’re implicitly arguing that if Diogenes is right about what he said, or is reasonable to believe it, that it’s acceptable to say. Otherwise, why would the validity of his opinion matter at all? Besides, none of us are saying he’s wrong for thinking losing a child is worse than having a miscarriage. But it doesn’t matter whether or not miscarrying is as bad as losing a child, because it’s plenty tragedy to have a miscarriage. Someone who has a miscarriage deserves sympathy.