Again, I’m not saying it’s not bad. I’m saying it’s not AS bad as losing a real child.
Oh, did you mean here in the pit? I think that’s a pretty good time and place…
You’re probably right, but I don’t particularly enjoy being misrepresented twice. I didn’t even know what she was talking about the first time, yet that wasn’t a big enough clue that s/he misunderstood the situation.
Please stop digging, Diogenes. It’s painful to watch.
Who said anything about “one time”?
Well, what did you mean by your remark, then? Does Dio live in some kind of a bell jar where his only contact is with those who have aligned themselves with him, for il or good? What the hell does it mean? Surely the man works and interacts with others on a daily basis–unless I find he is in solitary at the State Pen. Does he taint all those he come in contact with? 
You were insulting Dio and his family, for what good purpose? To score a point on a message board? WTH?
This whole thing has gotten waay too weird. Y’all take your umbrage and enjoy your feeding frenzy. I guess Friday’s are good days for righteous indignation around here.
I don’t think it counts as a “hysterical pregnancy” when there’s actually a yolk sac and stuff, does it?
I didn’t assume that was the case. I said it was the impression your post gave.
If you had to choose between loosing your duaghter instantly in a car accident, or in a long, painful battle against leukemia? Since the latter is clearly worse than the former, does that give you the right to tell people who have lost their children in car accidents how sad they should feel?
To them, though, it WAS a fetus until they were told that it wasn’t. I can see why you’d draw a distinction between a living child and an unborn one, but between one that never developed (this was not a hysterical pregnancy by the way, a yolk sac was present) and one that died at 12 weeks makes absolutely no logical sense. The parents in the last two cases would not have been able to know the difference between them until the tragedy stuck in any case.
No I don’t. I haven’t posted a thing in that thread (or even opened it) since the post where I said I didn’t want to hijack it anymore.
First, no, it’s NOT truthful, and second, it’s certainly NOT the first time Diogenes has acted like an ass.
Please, oh PLEASE, tell me how I’ve insulted his family.
Please.
Seriously, how many people have to explain it to you (4 so far) before you realize that I was referring to those 3 people as limited contact, not “limited humans” or whatever.
My wife and I have recently experienced a miscarriage, and earlier some possibly worse things, depending on your perspective. I wonder how many people in this thread actually have.
Sad to say, but if you’re in the boat we’re in, you start to get used to it. We’ve got friends we’ve met through the ART conference circles who’ve been through it five or six times. It’s all discussed rather matter-of-factly. Basic human adaptability, I suppose.
I’m not sure I could get used to losing newborn babies, though. I don’t think many of us could, having grown up in the USA.
To you. Not as bad to you. And you are completely entitled to feel that way. To saddad and to others, not so much. And asking people to admit that it isn’t as bad is asking them to quantify their emotions based on your judgement of what is worse. Not cool. It would be a funny old world if we all reacted the same way to every situation, no?
Nope. But he has to the right to tell people who lost their child in a car accident that they didn’t lose they child to leukemia
First, this is false analogy because both scenarios involve an actual death. A false pregnancy does not (not even of a fetus).
Second, I didn’t tell anybody how they should feel. I offered an ill-advised opinion about how they should have advertised what happened in a thread title.
Or how about-what’s more painful, losing a five year old child, or an adult child, who’s grown up? Would someone have told my grandparents that, oh well, at least my aunt got to grow up and have a full life? That my grandmother shouldn’t have grieved as she did?
Exactly. Should those people “man up”?
I get that. But I am trying to get you to explain how his family is **Dio’s ** “limited contact” with humans. Why would you say such a thing? It doesn’t even make sense.
It was excal who was the more insulting towards Dio’s family re the whole “wondering what life must be like for them”.
I do not equate the two of you, but IMO, one of you holds the tar, the other, the feathers.
Does he have a right to tell them to “man up”, or call them “self righteous”?