How’s the scoring work again? I understand an outright victory is bad for everyone on that board, what about a draw? Is it dependent on the number of centers you control?
We only go through 08? I’ve got to start paying attention.
The Round 1 games conclude at the end of 1909, if there’s no win or DIAS before then.
We’ve had shifting alliances in my game, especially in the east. We started out with a strong AT, then in the past two moves, we’ve gone from a RT to a RA to what looks like R just playing off A&T against one another, while most everybody else (except Italy, who’s just jumped on Austria) is trying to tell A&T to ally once again against Russia before he takes over the east.
I’m England, and Russia just left StP open to me; I’m moving in so I can check his growth if need be. He’s pissed, of course, but what can he do about it? It’s really hard for him to grab it back, and he doesn’t have 2 armies to spare from his Balkan adventures. Also, I’ve only got fleets up there, which can’t threaten Moscow, and I’ve already let him know that if he leaves me alone, I’m not likely to put an army up thataway.
We’ll see how that all works out.
That’s my plan as Germany too. Russia is so busy in the south, that he can’t adequately defend the North. St. Pete’s prolly won’t fall anytime soon, but Sweden and Norway should be mine.
How are we doing?
I’m awaiting adjudication today.
Thanks for the correction. My memory was vague.
I just had the Fall adjudication this morning. (I’m Austria.) Russia’s still playing nice with me but could turn on me any season and split me up with Italy instead of the reverse. I’m still at 4/4. I kicked Italy out of Trieste in the Fall but he’s still got Vienna. So far Russia’s been fully on my side against Italy and Turkey and politically it looks to stay that way – France and England butchered Germany and are pressuring R in the North, and I is completely in F’s pocket, so he knows that if he cuts me out it’ll be 3 against 1 at least for a while. He killed Turkey and I should have 1-2 centers from those spoils in the next couple of years.
The plan is for Russia to take Vienna from Italy with my support and then release it to me in the F04 turn. If he stays true and my tactics remain flawless as usual (ha!) I have hopes of turning the attack against Italy and having a play for Venice sometime in the near future. I’d be happy to finish 4th out of 5 when the game ends (Russia, France, England, Austria, Italy). Germany is at 1/1 after W03 I think, and it’ll go to England. Turkey’s currently at 3/2 heading into the adjustment phase (side note: He was in ION looking at empty Nap and Tun, with Italy in TYS. 50/50, right? Russia and I discussed it and I guaranteed that Italy would go for the Tun bounce. I was right and Turkey stupidly went for Tun. Turkey at 3/3 holding R back for another year and Italy losing a unit this year makes my game. He wouldn’t have listened to me had I told him, though.).
Anyway: I’m currently 5 out of 7. The 2 Powers behind me are obviously headed for a quick exit, G before W04 and T before W05 I would estimate. R could eat me up but in the short term doesn’t seem inclined to.
In short, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to learn that I’m the worst of our team so far. Hope it’s so, in fact!
(is that TMI? I haven’t been emailing regular updates to the crew as I’ve been too embarrassed. Don’t mean to ramble, but this game has been tough for me and the only perspective I’ve got is my own. None of my relationships with other players in the game really panned out (I STILL haven’t heard a word from Italy), although Russia’s been warming up slightly.)
Well I am anxiously awaiting readjudication. I’m Russia, and as you see below the first set of orders are the orders acknowledged received by the GM. The second set are the orders adjudicated by the GM. Makes a big difference to me b/c without the support to Sev, I lose it.
Russia: McGready Richeson [ppg_shg@hotmail.com]
A Gal-War
F Rum-Bla
F Sev S F Rum-Bla
A Mos S F Sev
Adjudication
Russia:
A Galicia - Warsaw
A Moscow Supports A Galicia - Warsaw
F Rumania - Black Sea
F Sevastopol Supports F Rumania - Black Sea (Dislodged)
German A Munich can retreat to Bohemia.
German A Ruhr can retreat to Belgium.
Russian F Sevastopol can retreat to Rumania.
This is the pivitol turn in my game. I’ll let you know how it all turns out. I’ll either be screwed, or pretty much set to ride out the game for the next year or so without any problem. Adjusication is 1800 GMT today.
All better. Thankfully I do not have Omniscient’s GM. Mine readily admitted error, promptly readjudicated, and now I’ve not only held Sev but gained the Black, with Austria poised in Bulgaria and the Aegean.
Turkey thy name is mud.
Dave, more details?
Bah, phooey!
Nothing shockingly bad happened, but this game is filled with morons. I’m Italy. First I’m allied with Germany and Austria. G is going down hard to E/F/R and A dosen’t want to DO anything, so I ally with T and we creamed A in the spring of '03. He should have been gone after the Fall turn. Instead of the agreed upon moves to finish off A and leave us poised perfectly against R, T supports A back into a couple of his SC that he’d lost and tricks me out of Gre. My net gain is zip, and T’s building 1 instead of the 3 he should have been building. With half my units busy just stalemating F in the west, I once again have no idea where to go from here. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE??? Haven’t they ever played before? “Support this player this turn, that player next turn, refuse to gain big when I can…” WTF game are they playing? How can you get anything done waffleing on alliances every single goddamn season?
WAG: off-the-board considerations coming into play?
I’ve gotten vague feelings in my gut that something along those lines could be happening in my game as well. Probably just my gut making excuses for the poor performance of my brain in this case, though.
I’m hopefully doing pretty well. France and I are romping on England, and Russia should be next. I built a fleet in Berlin (my only open center) and moved it to the Baltic, rather than Kiel. Russia may have believed my lame excuses, as I clearly can’t let up the pressure on England. With any luck, England will be down to one center on the same turn that I convoy an army into Livonia, with Warsaw under siege by Austria and Italy and St. Pete’s and Moscow vacant.
I’m fortunate in that I seemed to have chosen a very stable partner early on.
In the middle of 1904, I’m doing kinda mixed. I’ve got a strong alliance with France, and each of us have 6 units. Russia and I were on the outs for a move or two, but he’s offered a deal to re-establish an alliance, and I’ve accepted. If he’s serious, I’m in good shape; if not, I’m in for a long hard time of it. The fall move will tell, but that’s probably the middle of next week.
Things seemed much easier when I realized that it isn’t bad if Turkey, for instance, does well, as long as I do. Of course, I’d rather have our Turkey doing well, and I certainly am not throwing softball pitches at him, but I don’t really care too much if he does romp over Italy. Austria I want to keep strong, as he and Russia are locking horns.
Well, I’m completely fucked in my game. I’m playing with a bunch of people who turncoat every turn and a France who, AFAICT, has no skill at diplomacy, but has lucked into not being attacked.I just don’t understand these people, agreeing to one thing, doing another for the sake of one SC now with no long term plan for growth. Where does that lead to? What does piss me off is that France is going to walk away from this the number one or two man in the game. He has not ONCE responded to my emails with any kind of a plan or anything, just “I’ll be your friend if you give me your home SCs”, “we should be friends” and now, “ha, ha I’m going to beat you” I have seen no DIPLOMACY, just a jerk who lucked into a position where nobody attacked him.
Lets see…I had an alliance with Austria, but he either got busy or lost ionterest and stopped returning my emails for a turn. Turkey came to me and together we made a plan that just crushed Austria, he would be out of the game in 2 turns and we would each pick up 2 SCs. Spring went perfectly, but fall turn, Turkey turned around and allied with Austria and stabbed me, and he didn’t even get any more SCs for it, Austria did. I got jack, and I needed a build to hold off France. So…next season Turkey stabs Russia. Russia, Austria and I get together. Moves are due today, last night we’re exchanging emails like instant messages. Long and short of it, we come up with a plan. If we had folowed it, by fall, Turkey would be down 3 SCs and we would each have gained one, guarenteed. I gameplayed it out on Realpolitic, and there was nothing Turkey could have done to prevent the loss of 3 SCs. Nothing. So, we agree to the joint moves, and this morning when adjudication is done…both of them had changed moves in a long shot chance to grab one SC. So what happened? Nobody got anything. I give the fuck up.
Meanwhile, England is sticking with his E/F in spite of all I can do to convince him that F is wide open to his troops ( and she is- 3 SCs in one move ), prefering instead to slug it out province by hard fought province against G and R. Hmmm. E/F formed a solid alliance and stuck to it and they’re running away with the game, and none of these morons in the Balkins can see that that’s preferable to passing Serbia back and forth like a whore at a bachelor party. Morons.
Sounds like some interesting games. How long does the whole WM thing usually take to be completed?
It’ll take at least a year for all three rounds. Round one should go to June or so.
And I’m getting spanked, too. E/G teaming up on me and Italy not lending assistance. Sometimes there’s just not a lot you can do.
True. Havin a Bud, retreating my fleets. True.
I’m frustrated at not getting any help from Turkey to go after Russia. I have units in Livonia and Silesia, and a fleet in the Baltic. England is at one center, soon to be none. It is the perfect time to strike, as Austria would be happy to join in.
Turkey seems intent on moving west very slowly, making little ground against Austria.
I am, perhaps too strung out, and vulnerable to France, but he can’t take too much immediately, but could cause me some real trouble. If he stays true for one more year, assisting me in taking Edinburgh, I should be in pretty good shape. Unfortunately, I need to decide whether to move on Russia before I know France’s intentions.
Orders for S04 are due Wednesday in my game. The pace is glacial.
France and Germany are just about gone. France is down to Spa and Por, with the real fight between Italy (5SCs) and England (9SCs) as to who gets what. Germany is down to 3, with Austria (7SCs) and me (Russia) poised to destroy troops and claim centers. The race is on with England to see who gets there first.
Turkey, well Turkey’s down to Con, Ank, and Arm, with me in the Black, and Austrian in Bul and Aeg. Unless, I’m mistaken by the end of 04, he’ll be down to 1 unit.
England and I are in tight, and Austria has proved to be very reliable as well. What is the effect of a 3 way DIAS?