If I had to guess, I’d figure it’s less than that: if he passively stands by for a while and lets Israel do as it sees fit, people would always sort of wonder, hey, what’s this guy not on board with? How close is Israel to crossing a line with him? But if he stakes out a position of I’m Okay With Every Single Palestinian Being Removed And The Land Being Conquered, that’s, y’know, a bit more of a statement, is all.
This is fucking mind-boggling. Trump and Netenyahu have come out together and as much as said “We want to complete the ethnic cleansing of Gaza” and that’s still not enough for @Babale and @Smapti and you just shrug it off because there’s just no way they’d really do it—or a if they do, surely it will be voluntary, like deportation to the East or something? What the fuck is wrong with you two?
Morons. Monsters. Both of you.
Trump is a pathological liar with dementia and Netenyahu is a clown. I don’t take anything either of them say at face value, and if you do then you’re as stupid as rhey are.
Yeah, I’m sure Trump, the guy who couldn’t build a wall on his own border, is going to deport 2 million Palestinians. He’s very clearly talking out his ass.
Coming from a Hamas supporter like yourself, I’ll take that as a compliment. You do know that Trump has a looooong way to go if he wants to catch up on genocidal statements with your green headbanded homies, right?
And both Smapti and I have expressed far more disapproval with Trump and Netanyahu than you have expressed towards Hamas. Yet you pretend we align with Trump/Netanyahu… Big surprise.
When you give a clown a gun, you would either have to be an idiot not to duck…or you actually approve what the clown is shooting at.
People have a bad track record of not believing that he wants to do what he says he wants to do.
As for myself, my view on Israel has changed since the inauguration. Previously, the two sides in the war were only comparable if you view the Palestinians in the absolute best light and Israel in the worst possible light. And even then, I would side with Israel since it is closer to a liberal democracy and Palestine is allies with America’s enemies.
The “resort” stunt shows that their embrace of ethnic cleansing is enthusiastic rather than casual. And Israel is now allies with an enemy of America. If they’re not going to speak up when an actual, literal fascist is systematically dismantling liberal democracy, I’m not sure what would make them defend it.
He has a bad track record when it comes to doing the things he says he wants to do. Has Mexico paid for the wall yet? How long has it been since Trump University reopened? How many years does Hillary have left in her prison sentence?
I mean, advocating for genocide doesn’t count if you lack the competency to actually carry it out. Everyone knows that.
So was Hitler. A clown with an army isn’t very funny.
Eh, his jokes weren’t that great.
Palestinian director (reportedly) beaten and abducted by settlers:
Just a reminder that no one can seriously expect anyone to accept that the Israeli government is using only appropriate levels of force in Gaza when they routinely tolerate and even encourage this kind of brutalization in the West Bank.
Also a reminder that with things like this going on, events in Gaza are pretty much irrelevant with regards to long term peace and security for Israel. Just war and bloodshed forever.
Not forever. Just until things, you know, solve themselves. In some sort of final manner. As it were.
Trump GazaLand declaring bankruptcy?
Well…it’s high time for the International Community to move in and at least help implement the 2-state solution by forcing Israel to withdraw both their troops and their rightwing Jewish settlers from the Palestinian territories, and to allow the Palestinians in West Bank, Gaza Strip and Arab East Jerusalem to create their own independent, sovereign nation-state alongside Israel and notstrong text in place of it, in West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. Israel must withdraw their troops and their settlers from the Palestinian Territories.
One of the biggest, if not the biggest obstacles to peace in the middle east is the persistent refusal on the part of all sides (i. e. Israel, the Palestinians, and the Arab States, and the West, generally, for its complicity in this whole debacle, to openly and squarely face up to the accountability in the Arab-Israeli debacle, which has been going on for decades.
According to this article, Israeli forces executed several Palestinian medics with their hands tied:
If true, absolutely indefensible, and indicative of an IDF that has truly become a genocidal organization.
So the IDF admits killing the medics, and says it was an accident. They won’t release footage they have, of course. And it’s no big deal they buried them in a mass grave - that’s an accepted practice, to keep them from being eaten by wild dogs. They refused to explain why they buried the ambulances, though - maybe to keep them from being eaten by wild t-rex’s?
Go ahead and take your best shot at justifying this one, @Babale.
It would be nice, but they can’t actually do that as they don’t run the place. Israel does. And they have nuclear weapons so military force is off the table. It’s the fundamental problem with the demands that outsiders like “the International Community” or a US President solve the issue; they haven’t the ability.
The Israelis can and will exterminate the entire Palestinian population, with nobody stopping them.
Like I’ve said before when genocide defenders go “but where are the death camps?”, we’re clearly still at the Einsatzgruppen stage of this particular Solution. Instead of an Intelligenzaktion, you have a Sanitäteraktion.
And burying your victims in mass graves is very on-brand for that stage. I mean, also on brand for the IOF itself since before there was an IOF proper…
It’s more that they are modelling their genocide after the US’s genocide of the Native Americans. The parallels are striking, I strongly suspect they consciously modeled their tactics on us.
As for no death camps; most genocide doesn’t involve death camps. Nazi Germany’s style of genocide was the exception, not the rule.