Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit

Israel continues to breathe the fresh air of freedom and democracy, befitting its status as the Middle East’s shining bastion of liberal humanism

From the Guardian:

The Israeli parliament approved a law that grants senior ministers powers to shut down foreign news networks deemed a security risk, after its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has pledged swift action to halt Al Jazeera’s activities in the nation.

“Al Jazeera will no longer be broadcast from Israel,” Netanyahu wrote in a post on X after the law was approved in its final readings on Monday.

I intend to act immediately in accordance with the new law to stop the channel’s activity.

So Israel “accidentally” blew up more aid workers. Including U.S. citizens. World Central Kitchen was trying to feed the starving in the middle of a man made famine. This is shameful, disgusting, on and on. This is genocide intentional, purposeful, undemocratic, inhumane genocide.

Yeah, when Netanyahu says “unintentionally” I don’t know what he is even trying to say. The IDF clearly hit exactly what they were aiming at, using precision munitions. But apparently somebody saw a guy with a gun! Oh no, better blast the whole convoy off the face of the planet so that Israel doesn’t lose the war!

I guess the Rules of Engagement in Gaza are “anyone who moves is Hamas… anyone who stands still is well-disciplined Hamas”.

Alright. I give. If this is what it looks like, then Israel has gone too far.

When it was deliberately sniping Palestinian grannies and 5 year-olds, that was “just what happens in war”

Foreign aid workers, and suddenly it’s “too far”.

What’s the difference, I wonder…?

Well, the people the IDF targeted weren’t, you know…those people.

Those people? Right… you mean the dead people. Well, they certainly fixed that. And they weren’t prejudiced at all… they killed everything that moved. Men, women, children, pregnant women, Press reporters, aid workers, people holding white flags, everyone of every race, creed or nationality.

And the auctions of beach front Gaza land in the temples of Teaneck and Toronto available to Jews only…for development into condos?

That was just coincidence.

Right. So acknowledging that Netenyahu has gone too far isn’t good enough, then? Not ideologically pure enough for the Israel-Is-The-Great-Satan crowd?

In that case, fuck 'em all. The Lord will know his own.

Not really, no.
Especially when you post it in the Pit thread rather than the MPSIMS one, for some reason.

Ideological purity isn’t the issue. Two-faced hypocrisy is.

There he is. Knew you wouldn’t leave a boot unlicked for all that long, asshole.

Maybe if you posted an actual apology for your war-mongering bullshit, rather than just a “killing photogenic foreigners is the bridge too far” drive-by?

“Some reason” equaling “responding in a thread to a comment posted in that thread”.

Right. It doesn’t matter who dies as long as you can find a reason to villify the Jews for it.

I tried to find some common ground with your lot, but apparently nothing short of demanding that the Jews link hands and march into the Mediterranean is sufficient to satisfy you. So I’m done trying.

Post on it in the MPSIMS thread, where you also participated, predate one on this thread. But you didn’t comment there for some reason.

When “Antisemite” is the only hammer you have…

Like fuck, you did.

My, what a giant man of straw you’ve constructed out of our “please, stop genociding”.

All of one post - very trying indeed.

Fuck off, if you were sincere, it would have taken more than this to make you backslide, performative wanker.

I tried to find common ground with those of you who think Israel has crossed a line. Y’all’s response was “fuck you you racist, not good enough”.

Why should I try harder to meet the expectations of people who’ve already made it clear that they’re not looking for a middle ground? I’ve stated what I consider to be the line, but your lot have made it clear that that’s not good enough. So I’m done trying to negotiate this. Nothing Israel does will ever satisfy you, so I’m not going to bother criticizing them any more. May they erase the memory of Amalek.

Yes. Please stop genociding. Please stop the attempted genocide of the Jewish people by Hamas.

Well, laying down and letting Hamas slaughter them one by one might just be acceptable.

And you were so sincere in your reaching out, too… :roll_eyes:
You’ve moved from bootlicker to nakedly advocating genocide, which is very on-brand for you.

“But, Hamas!” the génocidaire wailed.

Naah, Smapti is the one who calls for genocide. Me, I’ll be happy if Israel actually stopped the slaughter and stealing the land.

No, you wouldn’t. If you want to “destroy” a nation, you are genocidal by definition. This includes nations that you really, really don’t like.

I think this goes to the heart of the matter with your opinion regarding Palestine.

~Max

If Hamas stop fighting so will Israel,. If Israel stop fighting they will cease to exist.

Except for fascist I think the rest of this list has been proven in this and other threads.
I’m not sure that Israel as such faked the atrocities, but some witnesses lied and the lies are still being used.

Ha ha ha! So, Israel was completely pacifist before 1987, I take it.

If Smapti could provide a reason why sniping babies isn’t bad, but bombing foreign aid workers is too far, I’m all ears.

Well, there it is again - “criticizing Israel’s actions means you want to kill all the Jews”.

This latest attack by Israeli forces was illuminating for me because it shows the high level of incompetence in their command and control apparatus. The Israeli forces aren’t just dangerous, they’re unreliable.