Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

I like tofu. I haven’t yet had jackfruit I enjoyed.

I had really fresh tofu in Japan that was delicious. It wasn’t even served in a sauce, just fresh tofu still in the bamboo mold it was made in.

I like tofu. A sadly departed Chinese restaurant made awesome fried tofu in ginger sauce. I really like the Japanese place’s agedashi tofu. And it’s often my favorite part of my daughter’s stir-fry.

I’ve only had tempeh and seitan with sauces.

None of those really feel like meat to me, but they can all be part of a delicious and filling vegetarian meal.

There’s a great semi-firm, perfectly-texture tofu that I’ve had before and never been able to find/buy again. I’d eat it every day if I could just track down the name of it.

I’ve been a vegetarian for most of my adult life, and I’ve tried a lot of meat substitutes, but I don’t eat them all that often (I don’t think of tofu, tempeh, and seitan as meat substitutes). Every now and then I get a craving for a hot dog, so I usually have a package of veggie dogs in the freezer; of the ones on the list, the Lightlife (Smart Dogs) are the ones I’ve found most palatable and Morningstar Farms are okay. If the rest of the family is having a meat-based meal, sometimes I’ll use a meat substitute to feel like part of the gang. For instance, everyone gets sad that I don’t have any turkey on Thanksgiving even though there are ten other foods on the table that are vegetarian, so I’ll usually make a Quorn roast for myself. It’s a good vehicle for cranberry sauce, but I would never recommend it to a meat-eater. One of the main reasons I don’t eat meat is that I really don’t like it, so I really wouldn’t like substitutes that are too close in flavor or texture.

And as I went through the list of meats, checking off the ones I’ve eaten, I started thinking maybe that’s why I went vegetarian. My dad believed that children should eat what they’re served and expand their palates; by the time I was twelve, I’d eaten goose, lamb, horsemeat, and even (extremely reluctantly) dog liver. The last was at an Indonesian wedding, and the bride gave it to me as a special treat. My dad whispered, “Just eat it” when she handed me a cracker with a disgusting little heap of paté on it, and I didn’t find out what it was until I’d done that.

I’m quite certain you didn’t become vegetarian just because you’d eaten a variety of meats. Goose, lamb, and horse are all delicious to me. (I’ve never eaten dog and would prefer not to eat dog, but if a bride handed me a cracker with mystery pate on it as a special treat, I’d probably eat it.)

I wouldn’t be sad that you didn’t eat the turkey, I’d just try to make sure there were other delicious things for you to eat. I don’t think of quorn as delicious. I’d rather ply you with roast vegetables.

I forgot when I first responded to the poll, but I have had caribou, so I just went back and changed my vote to include “something else”. When I was a teenager my parents’ friend went hunting in Alaska and gave us some caribou meat when he returned.

And now I just remembered that I had reindeer when I was in Norway. I don’t think that was listed in the poll either. But reindeer are basically domesticated caribou.

Reindeer aren’t on the poll. They are one of my “other” meats. (Also antelope.)

Hot dog brand? I have no real opinion. My gf buys them occasionally as dog treats, and I’ll sneak one to eat for lunch. I remember seeing Ballpark, Oscar Meyer, and Hebrew National, but to me they are all just hotdogs.

I used to eat frog legs any time they were on a menu, but then I met a physiologist whose research model was the bullfrog gastrocnemius muscle. He had to throw out about half of his preps due to contamination with parasite eggs and larvae, and his source was research grade.

No bacon for me, thanks, but I hope everyone’s enjoying their Sunday.

The Mouse family are, of course, the Mouses, but you can bet your life my family is calling them “the Mice” in the privacy of our home.

Same for me, plus Moose.

Exactly. I will call them the Mouses to their face, unless they indicate “Mice” is okay. But hell, i refer to whether office events include the Spice or not. There’s no way I’m not calling them the Mice privately. And i think there’s a good chance they refer to themselves as the Mice, too.

I’d probably refer to them as “The Meese,” just to be extra annoying. But only if they were friends and rarely to their faces even then.

31 winning seasons in a row. 2nd longest over 500 streak in baseball history. The 1926-1964 Yankees are first. After 6 straight post seasons it’s disappointing to not be there this year but Yankee fans would lose there minds to have an actual losing season.

Here’s hoping that happens in 2024.

She’s found two teeth of a sabertooth cat. She may or may not have found two teeth from the same cat; if not, she’s found evidence of two sabertooth cats, or possibly, as a bit of shorthand, evidence of two sabertooths. But “two sabertooths” on its own would, in that case, most likely be taken to mean two cats, not two teeth. ETA: And “two saberteeth” reads like they came from a jagged-edge type of sword. The name of the cat is “sabertooth”, not “saberteeth”, despite the fact that any given cat would have had more than one of them.

Hm, I didn’t think there was ambiguity in the question but perhaps there was. She found the fossils of two cats. The question was not intended in any way to refer to their teeth.

I have very strong opinions about these plurals, and I’m trying to figure out why, linguistically. I think that it’s because “Walkman” and “Mouse” are proper nouns, while “mouse” is a common irregular noun. “Sabertooth” is shorthand for “sabertooth cat” and “lowlife” refers to a lowlife person, so those are adjectives, not irregular nouns.

Just spit-ballin’ here.

I haven’t eaten any meat substitutes in a number of years, but the last (and first) veggie burger I had was basically a grain patty. So, it was like eating a whole grain bread “patty” between two pieces of bread. Not appealing at all, so I haven’t tried any others.

And the person who recommended it to me was really enthusiastic…I haven’t trusted their palate since.

Huh. On re-reading, I see what you mean. In that case she found two sabertooths. But I do think the question’s a bit ambiguous, so I’m leaving my non-vote as it is.

Sort of ditto; though used in that fashion I think both “sabertooth” and “lowlife” become nouns. The first is an actual name – part of one at least – so for me it comes under the same rules as “Walkman” and the name “Mouse”; but I can’t explain why I’m so certain that it’s “two lowlifes” except that “two lowlives” reads like it would mean something else altogether, though I’m not sure what. – maybe “lowlife” is an idiom, and idioms pluralize in such a fashion as to not change their forms?

Steven Pinker discussed these types of plurals in The Language Instinct. He says basically that nouns with irregular plurals usually lose their irregularity when they are used in a compound that doesn’t use the noun in its normal sense. Thus a mailman is a type of man, so the plural is “mailmen”, but a Walkman is not a type of man, so its plural is Walkmans. Likewise a sabertooth is not a type of tooth, a lowlife is not a type of life, and the Toronto Maple Leafs are not a type of leaf, so they all have regular plurals.