You made it seem like UFC is not exciting enough to keep Genki’s attention because of his superior skillset. Yes, it probably wouldn’t excite him too much to repeatedly get his ass kicked. You can say as much woo-woo mumbo jumbo about spirituality as you want, but Genki was a pro-fighter who intentionally never tried to compete to see how good he was.
Well you can say all you want about him getting his ass kicked in the UFC… but when it comes down to it he is 2-1… a winning record his only loss being a decision… Your opinion is one thing… results are another…
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It’s not my opinion, it is a fact that Genki last fought in the UFC is 2004 at 24 years old, and then fought the rest of his career hiding from real competition in K-1 Heroes.
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It is a fact that UFC competition circa 2010 is ridiculously different than 2004.
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The best guy Genki ever fought in the UFC, Duane Ludwig, is not a top ten lightweight and Genki lost to him. Which is not embarrassing, Bang is a very good striker, but if Genki could not beat Bang, than he for sure is not as good as you think he is.
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It’s a fact that Genki has never beaten a top ten lightweight. All of his wins are against scrubs or freakshow fighters like Butterbean.
For such a talented guy, his career is a total joke. It didn’t have to be that way, but he had no interest in getting beat up by better fighters. It is pretty insulting IMO to act like Genki was bored by being too skilled to keep at MMA when he never even proved once how good he was.
Try 45-50 lbs. Saku walked around at about 180-185 during his prime, Page and Silva were 220-230 range walkaround back in those days.
Bunch of stuff that belongs on the UG or Sherdog snipped.
I will say this because I won’t see some random guy on a non fight related forum on the internet insult Genki - I rolled with him a few times back when I passed through BHJJC. Genki turned me into a pretzel and I wasn’t even remotely competitive against him. Back in those days, I had a pretty good competition record in high level grappling competition and hold wins under various competition formats over some names you might recognize. And my standup wasn’t half bad, either when I was competitive in martial arts and fight sports (though I never did MMA). I’ve been submitted, tooled and knocked around by some of the very best (names you’d definitely recognize) and I know the real deal when I roll with one. Genki is the genuine article and possessed a true fighting genius. On top of that, he’s one of the nicest guys in the world. For him, competitive was about fun and personal development so for you to talk about Genki “hiding from competition” and a “total joke” from behind a keyboard is just plain insulting and offensive.
Genki fought top/near top level guys of the time in MMA, went toe to toe with Masato and took him to a decision under K-1 MAX rules. He also held his own (never submitted) at open weight ADCC against guys who outweighed him by 40-50 lbs. Count on your hands the number of fighters who have even attempted or qualified to do both K-1 and ADCC. You’d run out of names before you ran out of fingers. And most of them weren’t competitive in one aspect. Genki was.
That said, this isn’t on topic.
1.) I don’t buy the OP’s story for one second.
2.) Speed and aggression usually carries the day in violent, non-sporting physical confrontations, whether it be military or personal self defense. Skill and technique are secondary to this.
3.) The ability to keep presence of mind and continue fighting after things go wrong (ie, getting punched in the nose) is more important than specific techniques.
4.) If you have to choose between the two, experience is better than skill, but unfortunately, experience is something people don’t get until after they need it.
5.) Paired with speed & aggression, a weapon trumps all. There are so many effective weapons within easy reach in a typical alcohol service setting that not looking for a weapon (beer bottle, mug, ashtray) when you get the feeling that things are about to become physical is foolish. The next thing you ought to be looking for is an exit strategy.
I’ve seen more than one comment on here about “martial arts are about this/that.” Negative. The term “martial arts” means many things to many people. It’s not just about self defense, personal development or whatever it might mean to you. For a Thai boxer, it is about putting food on the table. For the practioners of Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto ryu (which still exists as one of the, if not the oldest continuously practiced Japanese martial lineage), it was (mostly) about efficiently and effectively killing the enemy. For me, it’s become a hobby and is mostly all about the fun. Try not to limit your thinking on what you think a “martial art” should be.
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Don’t know what Abu Dhabi has to do with his MMA career. I never said Genki wasn’t a top level grappler, he is.
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I would disagree that he was fighting top level fighters even of his time. I don’t know how you can look at his fights and even claim that the majority of his opponents were even A-level fighters for their time.
I am not insulting Genki’s prowess as a fighter or him as a person (I quite like him as a person, and think he’s an amazing grappler). But his MMA career was a complete waste of his talents, and we will never know how truly good he was because he chose not to fight the best opponents.
Which was my point. The man had different interests other than repeatedly fighting under the same rules format. He had a run for a few years where every other weekend, he was out trying out another style of fighting competition.
Here’s what you said:
Which to me is all keyboard warrior talk. I’m guessing that you don’t have much experience in the fight sports and fighting industry, except as a fan and maybe a part time, color belt student.
It’s a shame that Genki’s personal interests got in the way of your entertainment and the direction you wanted international MMA to take. Maybe you should write to him through his website and have him explain his actions? As I understand it, he is very responsive to e-mails. His written English is not all that bad.
This is not the correct place for this discussion. If you would like, why don’t you go start a thread in the fight forum of your choosing and post the URL here. I will be more than willing to engage you in a more appropriate venue.
Oh yeah, and one more thing:
Taekwondo, as per the English spelling convention, is by definition, full contact. Blows are not pulled and it allows for KOs. Perhaps you are thinking of some other TKD variant?
I don’t know what it is about MMA and fighting where you have to be a professional or amateur to have a valid opinion on the sport. There is no other sport like this. I’m going to stop reading the rest of your post at this point, because I’m not going to sit here and try to convince you of my credentials. You’re right, Genki has the best MMA career ever, and fought the best guys, like Butterbean.
I’m a random guy on the internet, signal11, and irregardless of you having “rolled” with Genki Sudo, to a neutral, his style had a tendency towards disrespecting an opponents ability. I want to see a fight - I don’t mind a couple of stylish flourishes from a fighter, but if I wanted “entertainment value” as my main criterion, I’d go to WWF exhibitions, or watch a Bruce Lee movie.
::bitchslaps ivan with a running double reverse spinning hook kick::
Fuck, I didn’t realise irregardless was that controversial I’d have to fight my way out of the thread!
:: shoots for double leg hold, raises Mellivora and slams forcefully on thread floor::
My fencing skills come in handy in rugby brawls :smack:
Being able to get in and out without being hit must be a handy skill for a rugger player. 
I love thisvideo of a pimp and a martial artist.
If you know, that something is going down, it certainly helps to either avoide the fight or get away.
In any real fight, even with martial arts skills, your are going to get hurt. How much is depending on your skill and your attackers skills.
Winning is always optional, I consider getting away with your full set of teeth intact and some brusies a victory.
Martial Arts will not defend you against random acts of violence, but it certainly will help you to react faster if something is going to happen.
It also depends on, what you are willing to do, to get away and not getting the shit beaten out of you. Are you willing to squezze someones eyeball out? Break the knee? Bite off an ear?
A single doubt in a haire situation means lost time and most likely a kick to the curb.
I have seen many black belts getting the crap beaten out of them on the street and I have seen some black belts defending themselves pretty well in hairy situations.
The point of this is: for some people it does help, for others it does not.
I will say in my case, it did.
I took karate for a while when I had a stalker, and while I never actually had to use it on him before I moved several states away, I did successfully kick the crap out of someone else who grabbed me by the neck from behind. Fool had long hair and it ended up wrapped around one of my fists while I punched his face with the other before it was over. 
I couldn’t even tell you what I did after the fact, but my instructors thought it was hilarious. I had been out drinking and I think the guy thought I’d be an easy target. All I remember is him grabbing me, it hurt, and me having his hair wrapped around my fist.
I also remember some belligerent drunk witch smack talking me one night in a bar and I stood there watching her every move thinking about what I would do if she actually made a move to grab me or hit me. Because she was so drunk I could actually see when she was considering it and I was strangely calm. I’m sure if I had not known what to do I would have been flustered or a bit scared instead.
But I still think the best course of action is avoidance, and barring that, get in a couple of good blows to stun them then run like hell, especially if they’re bigger and stronger, trying to abduct you, etc.
That, and don’t get drunk around jerks. :smack:
Not so. The rules for sparring in a style may call for non-contact as your objective, but believe me, you’re gonna get hit and hit hard regardless. I’ve had my bell rung more than once. Rung a few on my own, too.
Beautiful demonstration of the effectiveness of a brachial plexus stun.
A few years ago I read about a 15-year-old girl in the U.K. who successfully fended off would-be attackers with some kicks she inadvertently picked up by watching the opening sequences to Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
That’s what she said, but that’s because she didn’t want to say that she suddenly got a flash of power and now is a full-fledged Slayer, 'cause ya know, Buffy broke the rules and made it happen. 
I heard about that — wasn’t she called Duffy the Hoody Slayer?