Argent, If I where at a party where people had negative reactions to costumes I’d leave too.
Did the uniform he was wearing look like a modern one? Could people have assumed it was an actual (as in, used today) uniform? I’m afraid I hvae no idea what a jodphur is.
I’ll come too Walkers defence. Walking around among “civilians” in clearly anachronistic or absurd clothing can be a lot of fun. I’ve (among other things) had a beer or at a local pub wearing roman plate armour, shield an all, and never had anything bur positive reactions, either amused, or curious, or both. Then again. maybe the fact that this was clearly a costume made a difference (we were on our way back form assisting a proffessor at a lecture on roman military history, its not something I would do just for the heck of it).
However, I don’t really get the insult either. Was Joey annoyed at the guys tone or gestures, or am I missing something?
Maybe he is, like I said. But when Argent writes, “This is the kind of thing he lives for” to be certain that makes it sound like he’s just looking for attention, but there’s no reason to believe Argent isn’t thinking the same thing as you are. People really can dress the way they want to just because, and that that doesn’t have to have anything to do with wanting to have attention drawn to oneself. Believe it or not as you will.
First, I concur that “sausage fest” is something I’ve commonly heard to refer to parties or other gatherings with a surplus of males and a shortage of females.
Secondly, going around dressed like something out of a Rudyard Kipling novel IS weird. Not that he doesn’t have a right to do it. each to his own and all that, but he has to know that he’s going to attract attention and shouldn’t be shocked if people ask questions about it. It’s like going around in a Star Trek uniform or something. It’s a Halloween costume. What does he expect? I can’t help but concur that pal “Joey” was out of line in this case and I say that as someone who completely shares the OP’s loathing for frat culture.
As a former frat guy, I think asking someone “why the fuck are you dressed like Dr Livingston?” is perfectly acceptible given that my fraternity experienced attacks by angry Zulus relatively infrequently.
While it sounds like friend “Joey” was out of line, I’ve been to enough frat parties in my day that I know the type well. No one is going to come up to you and start a fight directly. They will comment under their breath or pull other passive aggressive crap to goad or otherwise fuck with you and see what they can get away with.
And in defense of “fratguys”, you know we practically invented dressing outlandishly and inappropriately at parties? Togas, Hawaiian shirts, the ole fat hairy guy in a dress bit, showing up to cocktails in a blazer and cargo shorts. You think an old Brittish Army uniform is “jarring”? Try walking into a frat party wearing nothing but boxer shorts and an 18" dildo in your pants only to find out that they’re having some kind of parents reception. :eek:
You guys are missing the really odd part of the story: Walker is a guy who likes dressing up in military uniforms and he attends Oberlin! The only way that it could be more odd would be for him to attend Antioch.
Quakers? No. Horace Mann was the first president. However, Antioch, which has always been pretty individualistic in its approach to education was in the forefront of the anti-war movement during Vietnam and continues to be considered pretty anti-military even today.
Not to mention that sometimes people who dress or act in an attention-getting manner do so because they want to start something. I’ll take your word for it that Walker does not fall into that category, but it does happen.
Well let’s see. You guys go to a party. Your friend is dressed like an extra from Gallipoli. You proceed to berate their culture of not looking like freaks and talk about how you loath them so much. Your other friend almost gets into a fight with some guy a foot shorter than him because he said it was a “sausage party”. And yet you still go on like you guys are the victims here. What exactly was it about the people at this party that you loathed?
And what the heck is a “wanabe frat guy”? Does that make them better or worse than actual fraternity guys?
The phrase has been around long before American Pie. Or at least it was at my college. (and it was Sherman who coined the term, not Stiffler IIRC).
I haven’t been following the thread, but wearing uniforms isn’t that odd - at least, not where I’m from. EVERYONE here in Carson City seems obsessed with uniforms, recent and archaic. One of my friends has a replica of British military wear, American Revolution-era. I myself have an old Russian uniform jacket that I’d love to get the rest of the uniform for, despite the fact that I’m female.
Yeah, the whole thing sounds more like a clash of the retards. Look! A scenester and a fratboy got in an argument! OMG, it, like, matters! Wait, no it doesn’t.
There’s something completely inexplicable to me about people dressing in ensembles calculated to beg for attention and then getting upset about that attention.
Going to the trouble to dress like a British army officer (or whatever it was) is about “not giving a fuck about what people think”? Wow, see, I didn’t realize how much effort it took to “not giv[e] a fuck”. See, I thought “not giving a fuck” sort of meant not going to special effort to look weird.
It’s ironic how often people who “don’t giv[e] a fuck” manage to get in physical confrontations.
Funny how much is being added to the story as time passes.
Maybe it doesn’t matter to you. It happened to my friend, in my life, as seen through my eyes - so it matters to me. Don’t act like I’m a lifeless computer screen. I am a person with a life, and things go on in that life, and they matter to me.
Is it the cure for cancer? No. Is it an experience that I felt like writing about? Yes.
It was the fact that the guy was being rude and confrontational that upset ME (not Walker, who took the whole incident in stride.) Implicit in the “I’m not trying to make fun of you” was “you faggot,” and you would know what I’m talking about if you had seen and heard the guy and looked at his face as he said it.
Walker doesn’t get upset about the attention he gets for wearing his outfits. 9 times out of 10 he gets compliments, and when he doesn’t, he lets it slide.
Walker didn’t get into any physical confrontation. This was between Joey and the other guy, okay? Pay attention to what I’ve written before you comment on it like this, because you’ve mixed up the facts.
What’s your point? Are you accusing me of lying? What’s “funny” about remembering more details of the story and bringing them up as the discussion continues? I’m just trying to give you the best possible picture of what went on.