No, a girl he knows, who he classifies as a "pretentious, pseudo-spiritual, artsy, bohemian-type " dated Friend A, who tried to get in her pants and failed, then Friend B, ditto, and Friend C, who she only wanted to be friends with. Then she spent a month in Italy, and gave up her virginity to an Italian guy, and then slept with another one. Which, according to AT, makes her a “pompous, pretentious WHORE.”
Yeah, I understand. It makes me upset when attractive Italian men have sex with other people rather than with me.
OK. And the short guy won. Because he fully succeeded in picking a fight and getting you to spend hours thinking about him.
I think that your pal Walker is probably an interesting guy whom I would invite to my party if I was having one. However, I think that it is rude to dress like the man with the yellow hat (sorry, all of the other good jodpurs examples were taken) at a party in when it is not a costume party and you are not friends with the host or at least a significant portion of the people there.
Another point, just because a guy has spiked hair and wears Hollister, doesn’t necessarily make him a bad guy. It could just mean that he has enough social sense to wear the appropriate garb for the situation, thus increasing his chances for attracting and meeting a girl- which if I remember correctly, is the whole reason for going to a college party in the first place.
Did the short insulting guy at the party look something like this? Because if he did, he has no right talking about you guys being a sausage fest.
Exactly.
When I was in college it didn’t take me long to figure out that if I was at a party and I and a small group of friends considered ourselves better than or hostile to the majority of folk there (including the hosts), our best options were to either keep a low profile for the sake of the free beer, or discretely leave and enjoy our own company elsewhere. Suffice it to say that my friends and I didn’t spend all that much time at frat parties - and I can’t imagine the Greeks missed us.
If I were planning on attending a frat party for whatever reasons, I’d make minimal effort to not look my grungiest. IMO failure to do so (or showing up in costume) would either be ridiculously naive or aggresively invite comment and confrontation. Perhaps both.
The actual progression goes:
Pal
Buddy (now it’s on)
Chief
Gaylord
Most of the board isn’t really the drunken frat party type so they tend to not be familiar with the customs.
Being familiar with that scene in it’s various incarnations, I understand exactly what you are talking about. There’s always some little Monchichi who’s always pissed off because he can’t get laid and is a foot shorter than everyone. He’ll generally walk around with a chip on his shoulder trying to goad people into a fight.
OK, look, I don’t think being like that makes you a bad guy, I mean, I had spiked hair and Hollister shirts - in high school. I personally feel that I have moved beyond that, and maybe I look down on the keystone-light scene because I think it’s immature compared to the scene I became part of in college. But you know what? Live and let live. If they want to have fun, then shit, it’s fine with me. I’m sorry if I’ve sounded like an elitist asshole, and I apologize to anyone I may have offended - I mean this in seriousness.
There are still things I’m not going to defend or put up with in any instance, at any party. One of them is anti-gay shit, which is still in full force among sexually insecure, macho college guys - if I hear the word “faggot” and “fag” being tossed around casually at a party, I have no desire to be there. If someone, as this short guy at this party did, makes any kind of bullying, challenging, male-domination-ritual overtures to me, I will not take it sitting down. That doesn’t mean I’m going to take a swing at them or even get physical at all. I have no desire to get into a fight at a party or anywhere else. But any kind of comment designed to somehow intimidate me is going to get a strong stare and a “what’s your point?”
As for the people bringing up the thread about the Italian guys - I don’t see how it’s relevant to this discussion. And if you read to the end of it you’ll see that I apologized for being a jerk and tried to make peace, just like I’m trying to do here.
I just want to say that I’m damn glad the internet did not exist when I was a 19 year old, pretentious, snotty, stupid scenester. I’m just glad that my assinine behavior was only witnessed by my friends and one or two others. Who (I hope) have long since forgotten about it.
I’m sure glad I didn’t get into an argument about it with total strangers from all around the globe, strangers older and wiser in many ways than I was at that time.
Boy that would have been embarrassing.
Like other posters have said, you’re a fucking scenster, equally as shallow and self absorbed as any of the “frat boys” you’ve taken up complaining about within your posts. You just think you’ve got a better scene while, shockingly, members of another social hierarchy politely beg to disagree.
I cannot shake the feeling that Walker is a bit of an attention whore and Joey is simply a flat out prick.
I’d like to take a moment to thank this thread for letting me get the “what is Jodpurs” clue on Jeopardy last night. I would not have known if not for this thread.
I’m sorry I can’t please you. I already apologized and tried to make peace here. What more can I do?
I’m me and you’re you. You’re not going to change my mind, and I’m not trying to change yours.
Walker may like the attention he gets (I’m not going to stoop to calling him an insulting name.)
As for Joey, you’ve inferred that he is a prick from one incident that I have described, namely, him being insulted by an asshole at a party, and not taking it sitting down. I don’t know and will never understand why you take issue with this. If I came up to you and insulted you and your friends, what would you do? I’ve already addressed the issue of the short guy’s challenging tone and aggressive body language, and if you don’t understand how what he did translates to an insult, then there’s nothing more I can say to you and you simply don’t understand it.
In the world I live in, people stand up to bullies. I don’t know what world you’re living in.
I thought it went:
Pal
Buddy
Chief
McCloud!
Preach it, brother.
You could be right. In fact, since you were there and I wasn’t, you probably are right. Og knows the world is full of cocky aggressive assholes of all heights. I think Joey overeacted but maybe not – again, I wasn’t there. Maybe the short guy was a lot more threatening in person than he sounded in your anecdote.
That said, why’d you pit the whole party? As far as I can tell, all of the other guests behaved properly. Sure, some of them stared at Walker, but really? An over-6-foot tall man who wears archaic foreign uniforms in public should get used to being stared at. Personally, if I saw a tall man dressed in a WWI British officer’s uniform I would stare at him – and I’m very polite. I would assume that somebody dressing like that was looking for attention and it would be rude of me to fail to give it to him.
The only other sin the rest of the party guests seem to have committed was that of wearing clothing and hairstyles that you consider to be ‘immature.’ What are you? The clothes police? Maybe you can borrow a uniform from Walker.
Oh, I forgot their biggest sin – they are frat-boys (and ‘wanna-be’ frat-boys, whatever that means). ::shrugs:: I don’t know much about frat-boys, frankly (I didn’t go to college myself), but I’m guessing that I’d find them less irritating than pretentious, condescending bohemians.
Yes. Jodphurs are apparently in but Northface jackets, sandals, and tattoos are out.
I linked that thread to illustrate your hypocrisy. You defend Walker for wearing a Boer War uniform, or whatever it was, and insist that he’s not pretentious, after you called a young woman a “pompous, pretentious WHORE” because she prefers cappucino to American coffee, and swoony Italian guys to your friends. And then there’s the threads Aesiron linked. You constantly condemn people for their appearance, but Og help anyone who even questions your friends’ appearance.
Argent, you’re a kid. You’re twenty, unless you had a birthday recently, but you’re a kid. I get the impression – “I had spiked hair and Hollister shirts - in high school. I personally feel that I have moved beyond that, and maybe I look down on the keystone-light scene because I think it’s immature compared to the scene I became part of in college.” – that you think you’ve reached the pinnacle of your development. You haven’t. You have a lot more to learn and experience. The fact that these changes you speak of have come so recently seems to me to indicate that you’re not settled down yet.
And yes, you apologized in this thread. You apologized in the PPW thread. You apologized in the North Face jackets thread. But you apologized after you went on a rant against other people, judging them and lumping them together for the choices they make which are none of your business. You seem to have a real chip on your shoulder, as if you actually enjoy having a marked difference between yourself and others, and that your identity derives from challenging and being challenged. Maybe not, but that’s how you come off.
Instead of apologizing here, try checking yourself the next time rage boils up inside you at the sight of a Hollister shirt. The key here, I think, is your viewpoint of “Well, I USED to be like that, but not NOW!” Why is it so important to you that you rejected Hollister shirts? You don’t seem to be so much happy with who you are now, as you are unhappy with the person you used to be. That’s your hangup. Don’t take it out on others.
Argent Towers, I totally agree with you. I’m pretty well baffled about everyone else’s reaction.
C’mon guys, when was the last time you were at a party like this? I can totally imagine this scene, probably because I’ve actually lived it a couple times. Walker sounds like a fun, cool person, by the way.
Uh, two weeks ago. And if someone walked in in a 1920’s British military uniform, I would hope that such an individual would be friendly, very outgoing, and able to pull it off, not someone that just sits in the corner and gets all defensive and asks, “what the hell is up with the codpiece?” Walker does sound like he might be fun, Joey or Mr. Towers here for getting all defensive and quick to temper: not so much.