[QUOTE=miss elizabeth]
Walker sounds like a fun, cool person, by the way.
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Based on what, out of curiosity? He wears a wacky outfit, which makes him automatically a “fun, cool person”? Because we don’t really know much of anything else about him. What is it about wearing ridiculous, attention-seeking clothes that makes you a “fun, cool person”?
Our good friend Argent Towers is merely suffering from John Hughes syndrome, which I described in a thread a few years back.
To explain… there is no time.
Let me sum up.
John Hughes Syndrome: [n]- A mental disorder in which one believes that anything popular is inherently bad. (ie: Tristan avoided the Harry Potter books. Anything that popular with that much media coverage couldn’t possibly be good.) Named because of the tendency in 80’s movies, John Hughes movies in particular, wherein the popular/jock/preppy was the villain.
Folks tend to grow out of it. Thank god.
And another aspect of the JHS is the closed-mindedness of the Benders afflicted with it. Someone might well think Walker was a “fun, cool person” and be genuinely interested in getting to know him, and find out exactly why he chose to wear Boer War uniform and expand their knowledge by associating with him. But oftentimes, the potentially fun, cool person declines to associate with someone who is markedly different from them, thus depriving both of them of new experiences.
Not saying that applies to Walker; just that it often happens.
[QUOTE=Rilchiam]
I linked that thread to illustrate your hypocrisy. You defend Walker for wearing a Boer War uniform, or whatever it was, and insist that he’s not pretentious, after you called a young woman a “pompous, pretentious WHORE” because she prefers cappucino to American coffee, and swoony Italian guys to your friends. And then there’s the threads Aesiron linked. You constantly condemn people for their appearance, but Og help anyone who even questions your friends’ appearance.
Argent, you’re a kid. You’re twenty, unless you had a birthday recently, but you’re a kid. I get the impression – “I had spiked hair and Hollister shirts - in high school. I personally feel that I have moved beyond that, and maybe I look down on the keystone-light scene because I think it’s immature compared to the scene I became part of in college.” – that you think you’ve reached the pinnacle of your development. You haven’t. You have a lot more to learn and experience. The fact that these changes you speak of have come so recently seems to me to indicate that you’re not settled down yet.
And yes, you apologized in this thread. You apologized in the PPW thread. You apologized in the North Face jackets thread. But you apologized after you went on a rant against other people, judging them and lumping them together for the choices they make which are none of your business. You seem to have a real chip on your shoulder, as if you actually enjoy having a marked difference between yourself and others, and that your identity derives from challenging and being challenged. Maybe not, but that’s how you come off.
Instead of apologizing here, try checking yourself the next time rage boils up inside you at the sight of a Hollister shirt. The key here, I think, is your viewpoint of “Well, I USED to be like that, but not NOW!” Why is it so important to you that you rejected Hollister shirts? You don’t seem to be so much happy with who you are now, as you are unhappy with the person you used to be. That’s your hangup. Don’t take it out on others.
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I used to think this, but now I don’t. And as a result, I judge you to be a dumb fratboy. I’ll attend your parties, but I’m full of contempt for you.
I’m sorry, in my mind I’m having a little trouble separating the high school/college jock thing from the frat guy thing.
And by the way, AFAIKT in all these threads, you are pretty much living up to the stereotype of the ill-tempered meathead psycho wrestler.
[QUOTE=miss elizabeth]
C’mon guys, when was the last time you were at a party like this? I can totally imagine this scene, probably because I’ve actually lived it a couple times. Walker sounds like a fun, cool person, by the way.
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Well, if you extrapolate forward a few years, the college fraternity party scene generally finds itself at the Jersey Shore in the summer and Upper East Side NYC bars the rest of the year. From what I can tell, a great deal of the people on the SDMB would not only rarely attend any such gathering, they would be completely uncomfortible. They would then proceed to rant much like Argent Towers about how much “frat guys” are a bunch of jerks or whatever.
This whole thread reminds my of a joke:
A frat guy and a scenester walk into a bar. The frat guy is wearing his Hollister polo and the scenester is wearing his Legends of the Fall getup. The bartender asks the scenester “Why are you wearing a Boy Scout uniform?”. The frat guy chimes in “Because it’s a freakin SAUSAGE PARTY! BOO-YA!!”
Ok, it’s not a particularly good joke, but I think it’s relevent to the topic.
[QUOTE=msmith537]
This whole thread reminds my of a joke:
A frat guy and a scenester walk into a bar. The frat guy is wearing his Hollister polo and the scenester is wearing his Legends of the Fall getup. The bartender asks the scenester “Why are you wearing a Boy Scout uniform?”. The frat guy chimes in “Because it’s a freakin SAUSAGE PARTY! BOO-YA!!”
Ok, it’s not a particularly good joke, but I think it’s relevent to the topic.
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lollerskates!
[QUOTE=Argent Towers]
I and loud shitty radio rap blaring from every house.
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As alluring and carefree as college life can seem, it’s statements like this that make me rejoice that I am 26 years further along life’s road. Having to listen to all that rap would be horrible, and even worse would be to have to dress as if that’s what I’m into.
[QUOTE=miss elizabeth]
Argent Towers, I totally agree with you. I’m pretty well baffled about everyone else’s reaction.
C’mon guys, when was the last time you were at a party like this? I can totally imagine this scene, probably because I’ve actually lived it a couple times. Walker sounds like a fun, cool person, by the way.
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Why would you think this? He wears unusual military gear; that is all you know about him. What reason do you have for believing someone who wears unusual clothes is a “fun, cool person?”
I grew up, and went to school in, a reasonably artsy university town, so I met a LOT of people who chose to wear very unusual getups. There was one young lady who never left the house without wearing half of a circa-1863 Union Army uniform, with the forge cap and an officer’s rain capre and a tunic. We had plenty of folks who were really into the Anne Rice/vampire look with velvet capes and the whole nine yards; there were pirate getups; there was a guy who preferred a Jedi appearance; and there was the usual assortment of less thematic but still odd university town clothing choices.
You know what? Those folks weren’t any more interesting or fun than the folks wearing ordinary fashions. In some cases they were quite a bit less fun, actually. Boring-ass people are just as likely to wear unusual clothes as anyone else, I’m afraid.
Was Walker one of the guys that the girl passed on having sex with before she went off to bang some Italian guys? (I think that was an Argent Towers thread…)
The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference.
You must learn detachment, grasshopper.
By the same token, the opposite of “conformist” is not “wear as outrageous an outfit as you can”. A non-conformist simply doesn’t even bother to take note of what is popular.
Your clothes say something about you. The fratboy’s clothes said, “I take note of what the others are wearing, and I wear the same thing.” Your friend’s clothes screamed, “Look at me! I’m so different!” Neither message is superior to the other. Neither is particularly interesting, or particularly unique.
I tend to wear jeans and a T shirt. My clothes send the message that I dress cleanly, appropriately but without much concern for fashion. I don’t claim that to be an interesting message either, but at least I didn’t have to put any thought into it!
Whoa. A lot of the people responding do not sound like fun cool people.
[QUOTE=Excalibre]
…I judge you to be a dumb fratboy. I’ll …
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A wannabe fratboy!
[QUOTE=miss elizabeth]
Whoa. A lot of the people responding do not sound like fun cool people.
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I bet you and I are operating under very different definitions of “cool”.
Oh, I bet we aren’t, except mine isn’t quite as constrained. I’ve read a lot of your posts, and I think you sound pretty cool. I just also happen to think Walker sounds pretty cool. For some reason, that rubs a lot of people the wrong way, which I find odd, but that’s okay. I also think Agrent Towers seems pretty cool, but I think of him as a “work in progress” if you will.
And, it’s just my opinion, but a young man with a paaion for history who collects old uniforms and finds pleasure in wearing them sounds interesting to me. Maybe he’s an attention whore, but maybe not. Maybe he’s just a boring dude in a weird outfit, but maybe not. From the way **AT **describes him, he sounds cool to me. What’s wrong with that?
You guys say that the OP is immature and judgemental, and then get huffy when I say that this guy sounds fun.
Oops, “paaion” should be read as “passion.”
It seems to me this thread should have been, The Frats And The Spurious. Or maybe it’s Frumious.
[QUOTE=Excalibre]
I bet you and I are operating under very different definitions of “cool”.
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If by “very different” you mean “totally opposite” I’d have to agree with you.
I’m actually with miss elizabeth in thinking that Walker sounds pretty cool, based on what we’ve heard about him so far. He does sound like a bit of an attention hound, but that isn’t neccesarily a bad thing as far as I’m concerned. Walker sounded, to me, as if he was good natured about his affection for attention and I tend to like good-natured people and like to be around them. One of the other party guests sounded cool to me also – the one in the Navy hat who offered Walker a salute. Navy Hat sounded like a cheerful, good-natured guy, too – and, to me, ‘cheerful and good-natured’ equals ‘cool.’
[QUOTE=AskNott]
It seems to me this thread should have been, The Frats And The Spurious. Or maybe it’s Frumious.
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Maybe The Frats and the Jodphurious?