Do people really believe that Obama is a Communist?

No, what’s significant is the desperate attempts to change the subject the instant St. Obama gets caught admitting something embarrassing.

Again, which Communists did Goldwater, Reagan and Wayne mention as childhood mentors? It’s not a difficult question. Little Nemo doesn’t seem to be able to back up his assertion. If you can, let’s see a cite. If you can’t, feel free to bluster, and we can all draw our conclusions from that.

Right, but facts are things that are not affected by belief or disbelief.

Perhaps you could provide some evidence that Reagan, Wayne, or Goldwater considered some member of the CPUSA as a childhood mentor.

Regards,
Shodan

I am not experiencing any confusion. You asked if people really believe that Obama is a Communist. I provided one reason why they might, and backed it up. You, on the other hand, have made an assertion that you cannot back up, and, when called on it, are attempting to pretend that we weren’t talking about a subject that you brought up. It’s understandable, if not commendable.

Regards,
Shodan

Does Obama call him a mentor, or is that a characterization of the people in the FoxNews story? Could you please provide a cite?

That some people are stupid isn’t exactly an insight.

Little Nemo’s assertion such as it is, is that

“That loose a standard” does not suggest that the men he named had childhood mentors in the CPUSA. It does suggest that the standard for equating Obama’s association with Frank Davis with “Obama is plausibly a communist” is a very loose one; and that the standard for equating the associations that Reagan, Goldwater and Morrison had once maintained with Communist Party members with “Reagan, Goldwater and the Duke were plausibly communists” is at least as strong.

To sum up: what Little Nemo asserted was an equivalence of validity to the two sets of preposterous linkages, NOT an identical set of circumstances upon which to base those linkages.

What did Obama say when he was asked whether or not he was a communist?

He was asked wasn’t he?

Right, and Al Gore was given plenty of opportunity to elaborate on what he meant when word got out that he claimed to have invented the internet.

Obama never said his grandfather’s friend was a “mentor.” That’s righty spin. Nor did he have control over who his grandfather was friends with. Nor is there anything “embarrassing” about having liked the guy.

I had adult “mentors” when I was a kid who were Republicans. Does that make me a Republican?

Eeeewww.

Don’t talk to me!

:smiley:

Nothing here “tends in the socialist direction,” with the notable exception of UHC, regarding which his tepid plan falls well short of, say, a Canadian-style system, and which even if it went the whole way would do no more than bring the U.S. in line with all the non-socialist industrialized democracies that have had UHC for decades.

See also here, regarding the Chicago-school background of his principal economic advisors.

Well he did attend a church that focused on Black Liberation Theology for 20 years.

Yes, there are quite a few people who believe Obama is a Communist, and not just uneducated slobs who don’t know what the word Communist means.

That and the Neo-conservative movement was started by a bunch of Trotskyites.

Yes.
Christian fundamentalist, too.

Relevance being . . . ?

Oh, yeah. :rolleyes:

I guess the answer is yes, people really do believe Obama is a communist, just like people really do believe he’s the antichrist. People are stupid.

And that’s why I’m not voting for Obama. Dagnabbit, I’m the AntiChrist and he’s stealing my thunder. I can’t take another eight years of people giving the president credit for undermining the very fabric of society…

The position of antichrist really doesn’t have as many perks as one might expect.

Black Liberation Theology is a melange of black nationalism, Marxism and liberal Christianity.

There’s no Black Nationalism in it.

:rolleyes:

I’m going to vote for the guy too, I just don’t feel the need to be dishonest about it.

I’m not being dishonest. There is no Black Nationalism in the Trinity Church or in Black Liberation theology in general. That’s just bullshit. It is pro-black and pro-civil justice, but there is no Black Nationalism in it, period.

Black liberation theology.

The RW accusations of Marxism, at any rate, strike me as bullshit.