Do we have a thread for SlackerInc yet? Maybe we should

Translation: “You got me there. No one else I can think of gets disbelieved like that when they share personal information, so I can’t demonstrate that others get challenged like that and just let it go.”

I’ll also note that when I mentioned my 2007 prediction about Jeremiah Wright, you challenged me for a cite and I spent hours digging through Daily Kos to provide you one.

Riiight. I just thought the thread completely changed topics to discuss a wagering game of skill and chance for no particular reason. I wonder if you really believe this, or are just saying it to try to needle me. Whatevs. :roll_eyes:

Those lists always strike me as the kind of thing the hoi polloi comes up with as an outlet for their insecurity and resentment in the presence of their betters. It’s reminiscent of an informal code of conduct in Scandinavian culture, known as the “Law of Jante”. Per Wikipedia:

  1. You’re not to think you are anything special.
  2. You’re not to think you are as good as we are.
  3. You’re not to think you are smarter than we are.
  4. You’re not to imagine yourself better than we are.
  5. You’re not to think you know more than we do.
  6. You’re not to think you are more important than we are.
  7. You’re not to think you are good at anything.
  8. You’re not to laugh at us .
  9. You’re not to think anyone cares about you .
  10. You’re not to think you can teach us anything.

Sound familiar? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

You’ve got a greengrocer’s apostrophe there, might want to wipe that off.

And you really don’t understand online poker (at least as it was played before Black Friday) if you don’t think bluffing can be effective. It’s important to pick your targets, of course: I had a friend who really loved to bluff, but was frustrated not to have a positive winrate like I did. I pointed out that he often aimed his bluffs at calling stations, which is a recipe for disaster. Those are the people you want to value bet when you have the goods, and just check it down otherwise.

You need to use tracking software, of course (ones approved by the site: I use Tournament Indicator). At every table, there will be a couple players with VPIP% lower than 25 (often more than a couple in the late stages of tournaments, the most crucial period for earning real money). Those are the ones you want to target preflop to steal their blinds. There are other players who are loose preflop (they will call with almost anything to see if they hit the flop), but are still not “calling stations” proper because they have a low WSD (went to showdown) percentage. These are “fit or fold” players, and if they miss the flop you can usually take it down in position with an economical half-pot bet (which only has to work a third of the time to break even). You want to aim this at only the right flop though, like Kxx rainbow (meaning along with the king, there’s a couple low cards of different suits, so it’s unlikely they’ll have any draw, but they will be afraid you paired the king). It’s also good to bet into paired boards (like a flop of Q77), because there are so many fewer ways your opponent can connect with such a flop, and they have to fear that you have a seven and thus made trips.

A favorite of mine is the semi-bluff. Let’s say I am in the big blind with QJ of diamonds, and I have a chip stack of 50K. Blinds are 1K/2K. The aggressive button, who has me covered, opens preflop for 5K and I call the extra 3K. Pot is now 11K. Flop comes 8 of clubs, 9 of diamonds, 4 of diamonds. I check to the raiser, and he makes his standard “c-bet” (continuation bet, a sort of bluff that is very common after someone has raised preflop and gets checked to on the flop) of 6K. I check-raise all in for another 39K, putting heavy pressure on “villain” (the other player). S/he quite possibly doesn’t have anything and will instafold. Or they might have something like a pocket pair of sevens, which currently has me beat, but will still fold. Even if villain calls, I have 12 “outs” (cards that will give me the best hand): four tens that will fill my “gutshot” straight draw, and eight other diamonds that will give me a flush. With two cards to come, I have nearly a fifty percent chance of making one of my draws. If villain is calling with something like ace-nine, giving them TP (top pair, top kicker), I have six more outs: any queen or jack, that would give me a higher top pair–in which case I’d actually be a favorite in the hand despite not yet having a “made hand”.

And yes, I have spent my fair share of time on the twoplustwo forums, although not recently. Feel free to look me up there if you like.

I’m having a lot of fun! Let’s do this more often. :grin:

You are indeed a very, very silly person. It makes sense that such a silly thing would be fun for you.

Lest any doubt remained of your deeply broken pathology, you’ve demonstrably removed it.

Calling you “silly” is a kindness. Pathetic momzer is more accurate.

It’s not often I learn a new word, and I already knew quite a few words of Yiddish origin (the recent Netflix series Unorthodox, which is excellent BTW, taught me a few new ones), but I had never heard of that one. Are you Jewish?

Yes, and it’s the second time I’ve taught you that word.

Oops, I technically made a slight error here (yes, I’m busting myself: part of my “narcissism” is that I enjoy rereading my own posts multiple times, especially when I really feel like I dunked on someone). Twelve outs is correct, but the ten of diamonds does not actually fill the gutshot as it makes a flush, and flushes outrank straights. So I should have said “nine diamonds that make a flush, and three non-diamond tens that fill my gutshot straight draw”. Mea culpa.

I would add that I play weekly with a group of friends who are mostly sophisticated players (one of them actually cashed at the 2019 WSOP ME), and I can make higher level bluffs against them. I generally have a tight image, so sometimes I will make a big preflop bet with 72o (seven-deuce offsuit, generally considered the worst hand in poker), or make a three barrel bluff (betting flop, turn, and river) with “air” (absolutely nothing) and take down the pot even against fairly strong cards in the hands of my opponents. I will show my cards when these bluffs succeed, both to set up value bets in the future (make them more hesitant to fold when I go back to just betting my strong hands), and to put them on “tilt” a little bit and hopefully get them off their game.

Really? Huh. Got a link to the previous post? I guess it didn’t take if so. (I almost said “sorry” but you were insulting me, so… :laughing:)

Did you watch Unorthodox, and if so what did you think of it? A lot of the critics said they loved the scenes set in Brooklyn (which are more accurate to the source memoir) but weren’t as into the newly invented Berlin storyline. I actually really liked that part though.

You guys gave me a little flashbulb-over-the-head inspiration. I’m going to try to set up a weekly SDMB poker game: Who's up for a weekly Doper poker game?

Anyone who doesn’t think I can bluff, come play and we’ll find out! :stuck_out_tongue:

So this what you’re really like. This manipulative, cloying bullshitter who thinks he’s actually charming? How often has that actually ever worked for you? Must work from time to time given how often you pull this transparent stunt.

It “works” all the time, but it’s not bullshit. I actually am charming. :innocent:

And it’s not a “stunt”. I am genuinely interested in what you as a Jewish person think about that show. I’m also genuinely interested in playing poker. It’s fun!

Are you chagrined that I wasn’t too wounded by your insult to engage in light and breezy conversation on other topics? Sorry, I just tend to let online stuff roll off my back, especially in the Pit. Why can’t you also let it go, if there’s something else to talk about? Are you afraid you’ll be shunned by the others if you appear to interact with me in any way that is not relentlessly negative? You can PM me if you prefer (and I promise not to reveal it here if you so choose).

Your charm is wasted on me.

No interest in the movie.

I can let it go in other forums. In your pit thread, I like to stay on topic.

We’re not going to be PM pen pals.

Damn, it’s like someone is trying to lure you into his basement 'cause he needs more material for his ‘woman human suit’.
CMC

I can’t decide if it’s the casual transparency of his seedy little act or the creepy disregard of it’s transparency that is most disturbing.

@discobot roll 2d6

First for SlackWit’s charm attribute, second for jerkishness attribute.

:game_die: 2, 6

2 out of 6 for charm, 6 out of 6 for jerkishness. Damming indeed.

Hi! To find out what I can do, say @discobot display help.

Yes, yes, thanks discobot. :roll_eyes: We’ll call again if we need you.

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That’ll come in handy for role-playing Thread Games.

It’s not a movie, it’s a miniseries, and you’re stubbornly missing out just because someone you’re mad at recommended it. Ever heard of cutting off your own nose to spite your face? That’s you, bubbeleh. :man_shrugging:

FYI, per Wikipedia, it’s “The first Netflix series to be primarily in Yiddish” (and the only one I’ve ever heard of on any platform, frankly). Metacritic describes its critical reception as “universal acclaim”–for example, Newsday’s Robert Levin calls it “an achievement of searing power and grace”. I think you ought to quietly go check it out. You don’t have to admit to anyone here that you took my suggestion.

D’oh, another greengrocer’s apostrophe. It’s “its”, not “it’s” (LOL).

And my God, it sounds exhausting to be constantly putting on an “act” as you claim. I’m a slacker! Much easier to just be me. The irony about your accusation is that what it is that really bothers you (and so many others) is that I do just let it all hang out, let the chips fall where they may. If I actually did put on an act, you’d have a much different impression of me (to whatever extent you’d even notice me in my dull conformity).