Do we know *WHY* Kilmar Abrego Garcia?

Yes, because a fair trial will be only theoretical.

My guess is that they think if he’s free and still in the United States, he will be interviewed, probably on television, and it will be obvious that he was railroaded. That he is innocent of anything illegal.

I think it sounds odd is because of circumstances that aren’t always clear to the reporter or the public - for example, what the court decsion actually says is

For the reasons detailed above, the government’s motion for detention (Docket No. 8) is
DENIED. A separate order will enter, following hearing, directing Abrego’s release on conditions.

which sounds like the judge ordered his release. But she didn’t exactly - she denied the government’s motion for detention and ordered his release on the case before her, which is the criminal case. That doesn’t impact any other reasons why he might remain in custody. In this case, he willl almost certainly remain in custody due to his immigration case but it could also have been a state case. So it’s not exactly that he can be released if the government chooses to release him - it’s that he will be released if any other detainers are lifted. Which is not going to happen in this case, of course, but there are other situations where it might.

I read someplace that a judge ordered he be held simply because he was protected from immediate deportation while in custody. In short, no one trusts ICE to do what’s right.

What proof do we actually have that that is attached to Abrego Garcia?

Here is a picture of him:

If you zoom in on the photo you can see (not great quality but you can still see) the knuckle tattoos from the other photo.

Funny enough, I don’t see “MS13” even though it should be in dark bold clear font…

:wink:

Other photos of him show the tattoos clearly. See, for instance:

Although the federal government has had MS13 leaders in custody, the Trump administration has returned those leaders to El Salvador, perhaps to prevent them from revealing that the gang had a deal with Nayib Bukele, president of El Salvador. Gift link to New York Times article about this corrupt deal.

To be fair, Trump does have a lot of experience dealing with gangs of criminals. (They usually work for him.)

I didn’t think I needed the “/s” at the end of that post. I was trying to mimic a typical MAGA conspiracy theorist about how there must be phototrickery if a picture doesn’t support something Trump said. Apologies to you and @Atamasama for the confusion.

I assumed you were being sarcastic actually (and should have made it clear), but still thought it was useful to show that there is actual evidence and analysis of his tattoos outside of the picture Trump had.

You didn’t do it very well. A MAGA CT would declare that of course the photo with MS13 added is real.

I thought you were asking just how fake the photo is, and whether even the tattoos are real. That wouldn’t be an unreasonable question.

I’ve never been a great actor, and it’s nigh-impossible for me to get into the MAGA mindset.

Apparently the guards on El Salvador were separating the prisoners between gang and non-gang members, and Garcia went to the non-gang section. Not sure where I read this, but I will check.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been released from criminal custody, 5 months after he was unlawfully deported | CNN Politics

mr garcia is heading home to his family in maryland.

That’s good but they are still going to prosecute him for human trafficking.

By which they appear to mean ‘giving undocumented people rides to work.’

But the buses that Abbot and DeSantos keep on sending? For some reason, nobody calls that human trafficking.

And now the administration is threatening to deport him again…. To Uganda this time.
On Monday.

Why him? To set an example for others. To show “This can happen to YOU.” To keep people (especially immigrants) in a perpetual state of fear.

This is how totalitarian dictatorships WORK. Don’t be surprised to see them act exactly this way.

It’s going to get worse.

According to the LegalAF YouTube channel, the government offered Abrego Garcia the opportunity, if he pled guilty to the charges in Tennessee, of being sent to Costa Rica. He refused.