He’s not going to change. People of the age of 70 and beyond do not make fundamental changes in their thinking, behavior or character. We have seen the real Trump over and over again. Anything that goes against that in any current behavior is because he is doing what he is told to do. He can’t keep that up consistently. The true bigot, racist, misogynist, narrow mined narcissist, will be the man we see most often.
He won the election.
All the protests about “not my President” and so forth are missing the point. Trump is the President. All y’all were calling Republicans haters and racists and yadda yadda. Then you lost the election. Now you are going to call Republicans haters and racists and yadda yadda. In order to achieve, apparently, what you achieved in the campaign. Which is not a whole lot.
“We lost. Let’s double down.” Good luck with that.
Regards,
Shodan
That’s right-He’s the fucking President.
But he ain’t the fucking Emperor, or even King.
He’s decided to bring a white nationalist with him to the white house, so no.
Yeah, I’m thinking this way, myself.
That’s really a stupid idea.
If you want something, you punish behavior you don’t like and reward behavior you do.
But you keep a close eye out for him doing substantial bad things while trying to balance it out by saying inconsequential good things.
For instance, proclaiming a “Girl Scout” month doesn’t quite balance out the fact that he just appointed a white racist and a homophobic right-wing religionist to help him guide him.
I think we owe him just as much of a chance as he was going to give Hillary. Remember when he said that she belonged in jail? Remember when he said that he’d accept the results of the election (if he won)?
That much.
I think you’re the one missing the point. Those protests aren’t to change the election, they are to send the message that we won’t put up with his racist, sexist agenda and to show people who are being the victims of hate crimes in trumps name that we’re on their side.
It makes me think about whether or not the toothpaste can be put back into the tube. Will a civil, spotless candidate ever win a major party nomination again?
I think Americans did owe Trump a chance. He did win the election. However, in my view, that chance was used up when he nominated Steve Bannon as Chief Strategist.
Vinyl is really Donald Trump? :eek:
And that is what he has yet to learn. I think it’s going to come as quite a shock to him too.
Poor Oprah.
She said the other day that she saw Donalds acceptance speech and Trump’s meeting with Obama and Trump saying Obama was a good man as comforting (or something like that). Then she had the gall to suggest that maybe everybody need to “take a deep breath”.
The libs ripped into her like a constipated Judge Judy on a bad day. Particularly the other lib movie stars.
THIS is how rabid the libs are about not giving Trump a chance. Nor only not give a chance. Even the contemplation of such is a mortal sin. When Oprah gets shit you know its bad.
Is this the part where you make a bunch of snide comments about the “intolerant left”, and then secretly gloat when we get annoyed because it validates your statement?
No “Think” about it.
Trump is hopelessly unprepared for this. No President has been less ready, ever, and he’s not going to be ready by January 20.
His decision to appoint an amoral psychopath, Stephen Bannon, to a high position in the White House is much more easily explained if you bear this in mind. It’s not that Trump is a white supremacist, or likes white supremacy, or knows or cares about the alt-right. The denizens of the alt-right movement are just peasants to him. What matters is Bannon is a smart person who helped him and he’s dancin’ with them what brung him. He’s got no one in his circle of sycophants who knows any better.
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But you keep a close eye out for him doing substantial bad things while trying to balance it out by saying inconsequential good things.
For instance, proclaiming a “Girl Scout” month doesn’t quite balance out the fact that he just appointed a white racist and a homophobic right-wing religionist to help him guide him.
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Honestly, I kind of thought this went without saying. Of course saying something nice and inconsequential does not counterbalance launching a nuclear missile at Johannesburg because the President of South Africa refused to let him win a game of golf.
“Giving Trump a chance” means giving him exactly as much of the benefit of the doubt as he deserves, which isn’t the same for every person. In the case of a smart and decent person, which describes most people who’ve ever been President, there’s more benefit of the doubt than there is for an ignorant jerk, which Trump is.
His position carries more dignity than authority. Cold comfort.
Well, my definition of bunch, snide, and particularly the word secret apparently differ somewhat from yours.
But yeah that might be it.
But again seriously. Oprah gets skewered? She might be the canary in the coal mine for your folks. You guys might need to “take a deep breath”
I will take my lead from Trump on how much I owe the new President a chance:
Trump is owed a chance to the same degree that Obama or any other president was owed a chance at the beginning of his administration. If you bitched about the right wing not giving Obama a chance you’re a hypocrite if you do the same to Trump.
Either give a new president a chance or shut up when a new president more to your liking is not given a chance by those who disagree with you.