Rape me like a 13-year-old girl being held captive on one of his buddies’ boats?
Do to the infrastructure of even more of this country what was done to Flint, Michigan?
Turn himself into a sort of funhouse-mirror Hugo Chavez? You know, without even the love for the common man.
Remove the senior officials of the entire government and replace them with his sycophants?
Proceed then to loot the whole country?
Possibly, maybe, who knows, open the country to invasion and nuclear devastation by his ‘friends’ in Russia while he tries to stop even the military from defending us?
He is a mobster and a monster; and worse, he is an old man with the mind of a spoiled child, a true American psycho. Giving him a chance is asking to be assaulted and robbed. It’s national suicide.
And worse even then that, the monstering horror that pretends to be the Grand Old Party is chasing a twisted mash-up of apocalyptic Christianity and the joking motto that, “He who dies with the most toys wins.” They will burn and poison this country that they may turn to Jesus H. Cthulhu when he ascends from R’lyeh and show that they have almost all the golden talents like good and faithful servants, so surely they should get even more. Damned fools the lot.
No, sir, we are at war so long as both this administration of dunces and this party of devils share power.
We gave Trump a chance to quit acting like a teenage drama queen on Twitter. We gave Trump a chance to start buckling down and study what he needs to know to function as a competent President. We gave Trump a chance to nominate competent and qualified executive officials. Three strikes; he’s out of chances.
A chance to re-negotiate trade deals and restructure taxes, for the sole purpose of enhancing his bottom line? A chance to nominate Supreme Court judges who will set this country back for decades?
Not to be a wet blanket <golden shower joke> but it’s none of our “chance” to give. You can hate it and him - I certainly do- but it’s a done deal. For the good of our nation I’m going to hope he somehow gets his shit together ( even if I’m silently hoping he spontaneously combusts :o ).
Yeah. What does it mean to “give him a chance”? Or rather, to not give him a chance? If he proposes to create a true, Universal Healthcare System in the US, you’ll oppose it? If he proposes a $1T budget to improve the infrastructure of the US, you won’t even consider it?
If he proposes to privatize the entire Federal Prisons System, you’ll oppose it more strongly than if some other president made the proposal?
The flea on the back of the elephant might not support the elephant wallowing in a mud pool, but so what?
“So what”, hopefully, is that the left gets its shit together over the new couple of years and figures out how to win elections. One piece of it that’s not going to work is saying to Trump, “I don’t think that’s a good idea, but you’re president now, so we’ll go along with it out of respect for the office.”
I completely agree with the first part of this and to clarify what I said in my earlier post, I don’t mean “lay down and die in deference to he who holds the title of exalted grand poobah”; only that fuming and picturing his painful demise (amusing as it is) won’t change anything.
He has a four year chance whether I want to give it to him or not.
If you’re asking me to withhold any criticism for his actions just because he’s new – then, no. Of course not because those actions will still affect the nation (and me).
Yup. he’s got his chance, regardless whether his critics or opponents give it or not.
But maybe the question is just a way of lining up a ready-made excuse for spectacular failure: “Waaah! the world is fucked up now because the Liberals wouldn’t give him a chance!”
I shudder to think how much Trump might steal off the back of a $1T infrastructure bill. I suspect we’d get a staggeringly poor return on investment for our money, infrastructure-wise.
The next candidate to campaign on actively and aggressively prosecuting any fraud that occurred under the Trump administration will get my vote.
This is a good point. I suspect that Republicans will pass bills that pay some tiny amount of lip service to traditional Democratic goals (e.g., improving education in impoverished neighborhoods), but the details will terrible (e.g., giving vouchers so that poor kids can be sent to shitty unregulated for-profit charter schools). When Democrats object, Republicans will call them hypocrites beholden to special interests.
Even when republicans promote policy that superifically looks good, experience has taught me to view it with a very skeptical eye.
this whole fucking Give Him A Chance meme is all over RWN land, it’s just step one in getting ready to blame anybody and everybody not them for* whatever shit is coming next.*
So, are you saying you’d reject the plan without even looking at it? Or, are you saying you’d consider it, but scrutinize it closely since Trump might try to enrich himself?
(I said the latter option in the Elections thread.)
Same answer as the non-pit one. What choice do we have? He IS president at this point. What does me, someone who didn’t vote for him giving or not giving him a chance even mean?? Nada.
He’s going to do what he’s going to do, regardless of what I want. I’ll be highly critical of what he does, certainly, but about the only meaningful thing I can do is what I already did…vote against him when he runs again in 2020. Personally, I’m predisposed to think he’ll be a disaster based on his campaign and what he’s said…and this taking into account that folks running for office generally don’t do much of what they promise on the campaign trail.
As for the OP, what does ‘we are at war so long as both this administration of dunces and this party of devils share power’ even mean in reality? Are you going to become a terrorist and attack the government? :dubious::rolleyes: Do you think that would help in any way? I assume that, much like the Republicans with Obama the Democrats are going to be opposed to pretty much anything Trump tries to do. This is a GOOD thing, IMHO, at least this time around. But at war?? That’s ridiculous hyperbole.
One bit of what character Trump had all along was how even when telling everyone what a lout he was the press and many on the right did not wonder on why he was doing that or why he was saying dumb and dividing things **when there was no need to. **
To me the most telling item was how he responded to the issue of what Trump was reading years back; Trump was reading a book about the speeches of Adolph Hitler as an ex wife reported.
You would expect then that any one that would worry about how they are seen by others would just deny that or to point out that the book was given to him by a Jewish friend. And that he was just reading about the speeches of the Führer and that he consulted many other books about famous orators.
But this is Trump, even if the truth would be less damming he responded by making it sound actually worse.
When told about the book told the reporter that he actually was reading Mein Kamph. Yes, not just the speeches, but going to the worst possible source of information on how to rule nations.
So, besides not being what others reported, many unsavory types did notice and then gave more support to him. Now, many would assume that Trump was kidding or that he said was just a pandering whistle.
But I don’t think so, knowing that it is very likely that Trump’s father traveled with the KKK or was a member, and that Trump is a big believer of scientific racism or that genes made him rich and then he became what he is. I do think that that was not a whistle to the most evil Americans, but that is what Trump really is. Not a Prince of Darkness, but at least a Prince of Insufficient Light.
