Well I’ve only been doing this message board thing for like two days… I didn’t even know HOW to quote until today, and half the time I still forget to do it.
Oh, did I intrude on your domain?
The lady’s trying to be nice to you, boy. I’m pretty sure you are a boy too, now. One of about 14-ish years.
First of all I was never in the military. This medium is full of actors, and I am one of them. To me this is a place for sounding off if I want to. For using hyperbole. I don’t have to watch everything I say, like I do in my real life. But I’m not advocating harming anyone (beyond simply defending myself in one of those absurd hypothetical situations this thread has generated), unlike some people.
Gotcha. It sometimes helps to remember that sometimes posters are referring to the collective “You” rather than you, personally. It’s also good to note that all anyone can respond to are the words in front of them which may or may not represent you as a whole person. It’s tough to reveal your character without revealing your real life identity (which is rarely a good idea). Arguments happen here because there is a diversity of opinions, diversity of cultures, age groups, religious and political affiliation, etc. It’s not personal, and that’s the best part about it: since you aren’t surrounded by hand-picked peers and family members who mirror your views, you actually have a better chance at learning something new.
Or, you can barge in raising hell, throwing around sarcastic comments and generally making mayhem. But people tend to respond in kind, so…give what you hope to get.
Unless you’re really pissed. If that occurs, get thee to the BBQ Pit and fling shit with the other monkeys. Sometimes that is just what the doc ordered.
Yes, well, who was trying to be nice when she called this 14-ish boy on the phone to threaten him into silence?
Let me see if I’ve got this right. Earlier you said you were military trained and now you’re saying you lied about that, you weren’t in the military. Now you’re also saying that you’re an “actor” in this medium which means that you’re playing a part? So basically what you’re saying is that you are sounding off here by saying whatever you need to say whether it’s true or not so you can make your points?
Well, as someone who is a photographer who started out in editorial/newspapers, I’m going to disagree about that, but part of the skill of being a good photojournalist or street photographer is figuring out how to handle those sorts of situations. Sometimes you shoot first, ask questions later; sometimes you explain what you’re doing first. A lot (I’d say most) of the greatest photographs taken wouldn’t exist if permission were always explicitly asked for.
Anyhow, as to the OP, I say no, you don’t have the right to delete. Also, just so you know, if you really wanted to save those photos, you could have easily undeleted them with a utility, as long as you didn’t shoot anything afterwards and write over them.
Yes but there is an underlying truth that I do defend, and that is the First Amendment. I started on this thread just for the purpose of saying one little thing in defense of it, and then I felt I was attacked unjustly and meanly.
Okay, drop this nonsense. It never happened. Or report threats to the police. Or quit going back and forth from refreshingly candid to theorizing conspiracies. Pick an online persona and stick with it. Good luck. Now I’m going to try whistling my way out of this thread.
What threats were made? A beating? Getting your camera shoved up your ass? Telling your mommy? What?
No it was more like some breather who calls up and asks, “Have you checked the children?”
I just hope she’s not like that insane astronaut chick who put on a diaper and drove nonstop halfway across the country in order to murder her rival. She was a little overboard.
Did you tell any of your friends about this argument you were having here? Maybe one of them made the call.
No I never mentioned it to anyone, and I didn’t recognize the voice on the phone. Theoretically practically anyone could have viewed the postings, so who knows who the caller was?
Somebody else posted that I probably shouldn’t use an email address that contains my full name. That might have been how she did it. But the only place I know of where my phone number is posted in a profile is on Facebook, and I thought I had my profile locked down there…
If you had read and understood my post that you quoted in full, you would see that I AGREE that photographer should refrain from taking photos when asked to do so.
I wasn’t speaking to you I was speaking to Troppus who had just said
When in fact, if you photography meets two easily met requirements, it does.
BTW, photographers being arrested taking photos of “x” does not mean that photographer isn’t covered. It usually means the police are overstepping their bounds. Show me a photographer in Jail, for taking a photo, while in a public area.
Not in America.
So I wasn’t addressing you with the “fighting ignorance”, which, I don’t know I’ve heard that phrase somewhere… OH it is the motto of this message board! You don’t like that Sleeps with Butterflies? You’re in the wrong place.
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Now read all of this. I agree that a photographer, when asked, should refrain from taking photos of a person. ** I’ve always felt that way. You’re not changing my mind with your brilliant discussion.
But you know what? I do have the legal right to take photos in public of anything in public. I’ll just remember to say I’m going to publish them online for my photo community to see.
You still have to demonstrate that your subject is newsworthy, Zebra, if anyone objects. Voyeurism isn’t protected.
TWEEET!
Let’s stop the hijacks now and try to get back to the OP and the debate that was at hand.
If anyone has any problems with anyone else, start a new thread, preferably taking it to the BBQ Pit…or starting a new topic if you have a new topic you’d like to debate.
drlarson, your posts in this thread have mostly since gone way off the rails. Discontinue the hijacking and talking about things completely irrelevant to the subject at hand.
If you’re having any real life problems, strange happenings, or concerns about other posters on this board, then you need to start threads pertaining to them in the proper forums.
Stop all accusations and off-topic posts in this thread, however, thanks.
Also know that “just talking shit” on this board can constitute as trolling and is against the rules.
Okay Moderator person. I read you. I am completely new to this, but I will try to conform a little.
Let me fix that for you: “taking photos for ‘her own personal use that she doesn’t intend to publish’ isn’t a protected right under the press clause of the first amendment.”
Do you have an argument concerning either the photographer’s property right in her original work or in her right to record/document anything she sees in a public space? My breath’s bated.