After he stared her down for making a joke and forced her to explain? :dubious:
I’m not sure what part of that scene you think regardless reflects badly on him. After that introduction, I think Pink would be more than justified in telling her to go fuck herself, because she was acting legitimately horrible to him.
I haven’t seen the episode, but IIRC from reading about it, the Second Doctor in Evil of the Daleks was kidnapped by them and forced to work on them somehow so that they’d be able to defeat him. As it turned out, he sabotaged them so that they were good and started a Dalek civil war. Guess that was too long ago to reference in this episode.
As Rusty was leaving, he made some comment about the Doctor (can’t remember what) and was shaking its eyestalk, along the lines of someone “shaking their head”, tsk, tsk. Think I’ll say SME instead of SMH from now on.
Is there a history in *Doctor Who *of depicting or referencing life-after-death for humans? (As opposed to regeneration for Time Lords and that sort of ‘aliens are different’ thing).
There’s been a bit of “what people believe about the afterlife”, but I can’t think of anything more than that. Not on TV anyway, and I heavily suspect the current Missy story-line isn’t going to go that way either.
Resistance is futile!
Anyway, new guy is very different from the last few, and I think that’s a good thing. Much as I love the Smith/Tennant style, it’s nice to see a different take.
I’m hoping that you’re right. I’d hate to have this show go all supernatural on us.
Well, they did have that one episode with THE LORD OF DARKNESS HIMSELF, SATAN, PRINCE OF LIES. :rolleyes:
Fair enough, but half-faced man looked pretty darn dead–we didn’t see if he jumped, or was pushed, but we did see him impaled on a church spire or something along those lines.
That’s a good point, but he’s also partially artificial - he might have been fixable in a way a disintegrated human generally is not.
River Song ended up in some kind of virtual paradise - in her first appearance, of course, working backwards towards her origin…
The Tom Baker version of this story terrified me as a child, so it was fun to revisit that.
My God, there were some clunky lines though. Clara: It’s working! We’re turning the memories back on! Aargh.
This show has the concept of ‘family-friendly’ the wrong way around. Instead of having a plot kids can appreciate, with some subtle stuff for adults to pick up on, they take adult concepts (like the moral ambiguity of the Doctor) and hammer us all over the head with them.
I think trying to eliminate a species of mind controlled killer cyborgs whose sole reason for living is murdering all other forms of life in the universe is about the most justifiable genocide there is.(assuming you mean the Daleks)
I initially took it as a dislike of people who simply follow orders without thought – not of soldiers qua soldiers, but of soldiers qua mindless army ants. However, the girl Wossername Blue hit a point where she DIDN’T follow orders, so I’m confused a bit as to why he didn’t accept her in the Tardis.
Overall, I was disappointed in this episode. I found it pretty much predictable – that a repaired dalek would be a dalek, that the two red-shirts would both be killed, that Blue would ask to go with him (I thought he’d take her, though, as above.) And once they mentioned miniaturization (and referenced the movie FANTASTIC VOYAGE), I was sure they’d bring in anti-bodies. In short, I gave it a meh rating.
I was thinking of the Racnoss.
I didn’t like this episode, and it’s hard to pin down why.
I think my issue is with the possibility of a “good” Dalek. While it does make sense Rusty would have an epiphany upon witnessing the birth of a star, his determination to exterminate all Daleks as a result just seems so infantile. If you recall the 2005 episode Dalek, that particular Dalek decided to self-destruct when it couldn’t fulfill its mission of destroying everything non-Dalek. The Cult of Skaro were programmed to think like their enemies and establish individual identities. That usually led to disaster. Dalek Sek transformed into a human/Dalek hybrid, and the other cultists decided to “imagine him irrelevant.” Dalek Caan went insane and engineered the Daleks’ defeat in Journey’s End.
Rusty just seems to accept the notion of being a “good Dalek” without the inner turmoil that makes Daleks even more destructive when faced with contrary programming. Maybe that’s what will develop in a future storyline. Rusty will convince the other Daleks the validity of rebirth, and they’ll develop a moral reason to destroy the universe, so that whatever rises from the ashes will be superior to the original version. We’ll see…
That made a lot of sense to me. The Dalek’s only method of self-expression is genocide. It seems completely logical to me that a Dalek who somehow realized that the Daleks as a race were evil, would react by wanting to destroy the Daleks - it would literally be the only way he could conceive of expressing the idea, “The Daleks are wrong.”
Finally got a chance to finish watching it this morning, loved it.
Don’t think anyone’s mentioned my favorite bit of dialog, from near the beginning:
“Hey, it’s smaller on the outside!”
“Yeah. More exciting when you go the other way.”
My two favorite lines were:
“Yeah. She’s my carer. She cares so I don’t have to.”
and
“Fantastic idea for a movie. Terrible idea for a proctologist.”
Ok episode. I wasn’t wowed by it, but it’ll do.
I was hoping that the miniaturization would be a call back to the Teselecta.
First off, I had a cable issue during the exchange with Mr. Pink, so I didn’t get that full conversation. She met the new teacher, invited him off for a drink, he said no, she offered him a chance to change his mind, which he declined, then he went off to his classroom, to berate himself for being stupid and saying no instead of yes. And then she showed up and caught him berating himself, embarring moment. Then? It was all kind of a mess, I didn’t really care for that editing.
They called the shrink ray a “nanoscaler”, but they weren’t nanoscale, were they? I mean, they were tiny, but not “walk around in the blood vessels” tiny.
I don’t know what the Doctor thought he was getting with repairing the Dalek. Yeah, fix the problem, make the Dalek return to being a Dalek. Don’t know what he expected to accomplish making the Dalek see the wonder of the universe and inside his own head.
Would have made more sense to do something to that memory core thingy that shapes the Daleks instead of just restoring the memories from it. Seems like changing the way it works would get rid of the “exterminate” mentality.
I was a little thrown by the attitude toward the first death, but it did make sense. He screamed at them No a couple times, but then he knew he didn’t have any way to save the guy, at least make his death useful. Practical and focused on the future.
I didn’t understand his rejection of Journey Blue at the end. So what if she’s a soldier? Maybe she’s wanting to come with you and quitting the army? Maybe that’s her growth mode. Versus, say, Martha Jones, who went off and became a soldier running UNIT. Or Mickey Smith.
All to set up his growth with Mr. Pink? :rolleyes:
I did like that Clara had something to do, and the Doctor trusted her to do something on her own.