Yeah, what is up with Amy’s life “not making any sense”?
The other thing that really stood out was River saying (paraphrase) “Why do I ever let you go out?” referring to the Doctor. She’s not an embodiment of the Tardis is she? Naah! I think it’s pretty clear that when she said in an earlier episode she’d been taught to fly the Tardis by the best that she means she was actually taught by the Tardis. Or was it by the other Doctor who may or may not have been turning up in other episodes?
Oh, I don’t know. What a tangled web you’ve weaved Mr Moffat, you fiend.
River got time travel from a shady blue guy in a bar.
What about the missing ducks? I must know!
He said before that it was all about her - where are her parents? Why was she on her own when he met her? Why did she grow up in a huge house with no-one else? That really isn’t normal.
Chalk me up as another person who had my heart in my mouth through the last ten minutes and my jaw firmly open when the episode closed. Silence really did fall too - the music cut out just before the show did!
So, some things I don’t get and will no doubt be explained in the next episode:
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[li]As someone else said - how did all those races across time and space collaborate to imprison the Doctor?[/li][li]Within that episode we were reminded that no-one but the Doctor can fly the TARDIS, but River can? So who is she? She knows his real name, is this (yet more) evidence that she is another (final?) incarnation of the Doctor?[/li][li]Why was killing Amy important? Or did the various races just see this as a loose end to tie up?[/li][li]Who is this other intelligence controlling everything? The one interferring with the TARDIS when River was flying it? The one saying “silence will fall”? How did it stop River leaving?[/li][li]Why does the TARDIS exploding end the universe? The TARDIS is just one of many of its type, it seems a pretty huge design flaw that destroying one would obliterate the whole space-time continuum[/li][li]What about the jacket theory? That the Doctor crossed his own timeline in the stone angels episode and spoke to Amy, saying she had to remember the crack in her wall? I’m struggling to think how that could help anything[/li][li]How the HELL is he going to get out of this one?!??!?!?[/li][/ul]
I’ll look forward to the stunning conclusion, which just so happens to be on my birthday. ![]()
Damn, what a brilliant episode that was.
Something that may be key here is the Sontaran is General Staal, (played by Chris Ryan) who died in his episode back in season 4. He shouldn’t be able to turn up here.
If the trap was set up by Amy’s memories, then perhaps the “Alliance” is a figment plucked from the Doctor’s own memories, formed from his guilt. Both he and Amy have been affected by the crack, which seems to directly tap into memory as part of its nefarious deeds.
Sontarans are cloned wholesale, aren’t they?
I’m still in shock with this one. This has to be a dream scenario or alternate reality.
There’s no way the Doctor could defeat an alliance of his most feared enemies.
I don’t understand the one dismembered Cyberman. Why was he there? How does he fit into the trap? The fake Romans were already in place to capture the Doctor.
Lot of questions and no answers.
I just realised that after the 1st part of the finale. I guess it didn’t take anything amazing, just for the character to settle in and for me to warm to it.
Yeah, coz everyone remembers the bloody Yeti, the ones from the lost episodes, turning up once in colour in The Five Doctors. Seeing them wobble about will be waaaay more exciting than the seething anger of the Ice Warriors as they blast someone with a stream of sonic death!
Sorry, I’m just bitter at the writers for five seasons free of the Ice Warriors ![]()
Good point, the Sontarans at least had complained about being completely left out of the Time War, the Shadow Proclamation had scant knowledge of it, suggesting they don’t or can’t involve themselves in time travel.
If the Daleks knew, why bother with their allies? I would have thought they would take a slave race (one with hands so the Doctor could be placed in the big chair) and then forget the rest.
He didn’t. Christopher Ryan is credited as Commander Stark.
Aha. Okay then, scratch that theory off the list.
So I don’t know how this board feels about excessively large text, but…
I
LOVE
RORY
WILLIAMS
“I died and turned into a Roman! It was very distracting.”
Fantastic episode, can’t wait to see how it all turns out in the end. However, I can tell you one thing:
Unless Wikipedia lies, Amy Pond is alive - Karen Gillan is signed on to play her in the next season.
Edited to add, my prediction is that the Doctor will remain locked in the Pandorica until June 26, 2010 - the day the Pandorica opens…again.
I like how 26th June 2010 is the date of the season finale.
And so the universe ends.
TO BE CONTINUED
I love this show.
Fantastic episode. Stonehenge/Underhenge was a great setting. Loved to see the whole series coming together, even the “stand-alone” episodes. Amy and Rory’s parts were beautifully written and acted. Hated to see Amy die, even though we can be fairly certain she’ll get better. Remember that much-derided bit from “The Power of the Daleks” when the power of love stopped the bomb from exploding? Suddenly that looks like a setup for this scene. If it was, well-done. And kudos for actually making a cyberman seem scary. Smith continues to impress.
My biggest quibble would be the Doctor/Rory reunion. He was supposedly quite fond of Rory, and was largely responsible for his death and “erasure,” so his obliviousness followed by diffidence, while good for a couple of chuckles, made him look like a bit of a jerk.
So why put the Doctor in a box, when he has a history of escaping from boxes? Why not rend him limb from limb and dematerialize the pieces? I hope there’s a reason for that, and I hope it’s not “It was all a dream.”
Poor, plastic Roranicus. What’s going to happen to him? It would be unseemly for Amy to end up with an inorganic husband. On the other hand, I would think they would want to avoid having a third big emotional death scene for the same character in one season. Maybe he and Bracewell the human bomb will end up as flatmates.
I kind of assumed it was because people were being eaten by the crack…but Amy didn’t remember them because they got eaten by the crack.
What was the “Silence will fall” voice that River kept hearing? I know we’ve heard that phrase a number of times, but which voice was that?
And why were the rhino-guys involved? I thought they were part of the Shadow Proclamation, and presumably not part of the Evil Association?
-Joe
Wow, that was exciting! Damn it, Rory looks hot as a Roman. Rowr! He can’t end up a plastic Roman, that would suck too much.
Okay, so Vincent paints a warning to the Doctor, it ends up in WWII with Churchhill, he calls the Doctor on the timey-whimey phone, then… why does the Tardis route the call to River?
Nice twist about the Pandorica. The whole they were going on and on about how terrible must be whatever’s inside it, and oh look at all the security measures what could possible require that - I was thinking “the Doctor’s in there or something, right?”
We know River doesn’t die in the Tardis explosion. She dies on the Library planet. Hmm.
Because for some reason he wasn’t answering the phone…presumably because the TARDIS didn’t want him to get it. So, the TARDIS wanted her there.
-Joe
I understand the Doctor usually looks for peaceful solutions. He often allows himself to be captured because it buys time to find a solution.
He’s also a veteran of the time wars. He’s defeated many enemies in the new series. He fought and defeated a Sycorax in The Christmas Invasion. He kills the last living Racnoss in The Runaway Bride. The punishment he awards the Family in The Family of Blood is absolutely ruthless. There is indeed, a very dangerous side to The Doctor.
We’re told he’s feared by many. His true powers have only been hinted at. Another Timelord (The Master) could fire energy bolts.
So, why does he offer no resistance as he’s strapped in the Pandorica for eternity? Wouldn’t he rather die fighting then spend eternity in that box?
Maybe the Doctor has a plan? Somehow he thinks there’s a way to break out of the Pandorica? It seems impossible.
Still, I wanted to see him fight.
I did actually screw my face up and sigh when he did his loud “you know who I am! Do the smart thing and let someone else shoot first” speech as we’ve now heard it or variants thereof a few times before and it’s starting to feel like a deus ex machina.
But then all the races admitted they had collaborated together on this and it made sense. 
So does this mean that the Doctor is prisoner zero?
Possibly stolen from Captain Jack’s severed wrist, if I understood that scene right…?