I’m sure some people don’t really care about the distinction, but if you’re really interested in discussing the medium, it makes as much sense to distinguish between a pilot and a first episode as it does to remember the difference between a first draft and a first edition when you’re talking about novels.
I knew a guy who tried to get on the pilot for The Apprentice, but a mistake landed him on a sailing ship off the coast of Cornwall. He often complains about it, as he’s stuck on the crew for 84 years.
Sorry, pizzabrat, your pilot post failed to grab my attention and was generally lame. I recommend this thread be cancelled in favor of more I Burning Your Dog reruns.
I don’t know why this bothers you so much, pizzabrat, but I’d like to thank you for posting it, since a link submitted after your OP allowed me to figure out a difference I never understood.
Would I be too much of a nerd to mention I’m looking forward to the broadcast of what’s being advertised as the pilot episode of Leave It To Beaver on Saturday – with totally different actors and stuff.
Who misuses these terms again? Anyone have a cite? I’ve never heard it used incorrectly. I see the linked wiki entry mentions ST - 2 pilots, neither of which used as the first episode.
Actors care about pilots because there are more roles up for grabs - with the downside that even if you land it, odds are the series won’t get made.
Same here. Whenever it comes up, as far as I can remember, it’s in a sensible context like “And then those morons at Fox didn’t show the pilot as the first episode, so no one could figure out how the storyline was supposed to flow.”
The pilot of Star Trek TOS, became the two part episode Menagerie after it was retooled (and IIRC, the execs at NBC told Roddenberry to get rid of the guy with the pointy ears.)
Heh, I thought this was going to be about actual pilots. For some reason, my Dad can’t stand the phrase “push the envelope.”
Anyhoo, of some minor trivia noteworthiness, there was a pilot episode of Law & Order that had the original cast (Dzundza, Noth, Florek, Moriarty and Brooks) except Steven Hill, who went on to set a longevity record, eventually eclipsed by S. Epatha Merkerson. Thus, the last original cast member to leave the show wasn’t Hill, but Noth. Further, it was evidently made quite some time before the regular episodes, because Dzundza looks a lot slimmer.
Of further trivial note, Star Trek had two pilot episodes, noticeably different in style and casting than the eventual product, but the episode that was actually broadcast first was the somewhat mediocre “The Man Trap”, apparently chosen by network execs because among the early episodes, it was the only one with a recognizable “space monster.”