does Mr. George Fraser look black to you?

And we’re, what, 13-14% of the population? Yes, it’s deficient, but we’re not 50% of the population controlling 10% of the wealth. By the way, I request a cite for your assertion that black control of the nation’s wealth hasn’t increased in ~90 years.

Thinking further, I wonder if you’re conflating two different things. An individual’s professional success doesn’t necessarily correspond to any measurable, or indeed any, increase in control of a nation’s wealth.

Yes, those with higher incomes and better educations have more influence on the development of products and services and how and to whom they’re marketed through their more substantial buying power than those with lower incomes and lesser educational achievement, however, I contend this influence is negligible as relates to potential shifts in control of national wealth.

Now, your response may be that this is exactly what Fraser’s talking about; that it’s the disparate and disconnected silos of individual wealth held by black people that directly negates our ability to be the juggernaut for an abrupt and measurable shift in control of the nation’s wealth, as well as our ability as a group to reach the ostensible goal of autonomous self determination. But I think this promotes assumptions that have not been proven. Whites are no more monolithic in their pursuits than blacks; there are just more of them, so there are more and larger pockets of likemindedness in its population, which necessarily has a more pronounced and more direct influence on the nation’s wealth and who controls it, as well as, to an extent, on who influences whom. However, if their numbers were reduced to the level of blacks in the US, I contend their influence would drop in almost equal measure.

Also, it’s not just that Fraser believes blacks should pursue steps to wrest their destinies from influences that may not have their best interests at heart and, in the process, break the chains of dependence on a system they don’t control, or at least become a force to redefine it, which, I admit, is laudable, or can be, but he seems to express incredulity that blacks haven’t already done this, which comes off somewhat condescending and presumptuous or, at the very least, naive. The system conspires, and yes, it needs to be changed, but promoting the institution of a parallel system, which is what I gather Fraser is advocating (correct me if I’m wrong), and believing this is a solution is, in my opinion, not only unrealistic, but potentially irrecoverably destructive. That said, I’m willing to have my mind changed if I could be shown a statistical/mathematical model to support Fraser’s proposal.

Code_Grey is pretty transparent in his disdain for blacks, and becomes ever more so with every unprovoked snide remark and slur. My mistake was not seeing it sooner and continuing to attempt to engage him.

I’d just like to ask again:

Code_grey, why do you continue to ignore this question?

Although at this point, he’s already dug himself in so deep, it’s almost moot. Still, I’d like to see it answered.

Not necessarily - I’m pretty sure some members of this board are fucking aliens.

I may fuck aliens, but that doesn’t make me less human!

Racist, it’s the season for them, apparently.

No, you’re supposed to say, “I hate racism month.”