Do we… do we, yes!
The Victim Card has been played!
And the crowd goes wild!!!
Just a hint, when you see a pretty obviously playful, tongue in cheek joke, and take the time to explain why it’s objectionable to you, you’re being a humorless whiner.
And by the way, if you require I’m sure I can find ample pop culture refrences to feminists/women/academic-professional-whiners flipping out over the use of the word ‘bitch’.
In some jokes, there is an element called “the butt”. There have been butts of jokes for probably as long as there have been jokes (sorry, no cite). I’ve been the butt of jokes, you’ve been the butt of jokes. We’ve all been the butt of jokes.
Until Political Correctness enters the picture. Now the butts of jokes are offended that somebody would have the gall to make them the butt of a joke. That’s not PC! They have feelings!
News flash: The butts of jokes generally have never liked being the butt of a joke, but they got over it. Made their own joke, something. With Political Correctness running amok, people are no longer taking being the butt of a joke lying down! They will fight back! What we need is Hate Speech clauses governing the treatment of the butts of jokes. No we don’t.
Gee, catsix, imagine seeing you here. :rolleyes:
What you see as no good reason I see as good reason.
I guess I could tell you about all the wonderful guys I’ve known and loved my entire life (dad, brothers, cousins, friends, husband) who also have their mostly unconscious bits of sexist humor, but it’s not worth it. I was actually starting to like you, too. Oh well.
And FinnAgain, it wasn’t “obviously playful,” it was…oh forget it. You’re not listening, you’ve got your back up and that’s it. I’m going to add you to my list of offenderati. A short but growing list 
Bleah. I could start a whole bit about how different genders definitely do exist and that’s a good thing, and get into balance and yin and yang and how it’s not bad to acknowledge gender as long as you’re not bound by it, blah blah blah. But that would be tiresome and taking the whole topic even more seriously than anyone else.
So I’ll just say this: usually, if I know that something offends someone I respect, then I’ll stop saying it, even if I don’t personally have a problem with it, but just out of respect for the other person. And I respect matt_mcl.
But I totally, completely disagree with the idea that anything said in either of those threads was remotely offensive. So if and when I keep on saying stuff like that, it’s not out of a lack of respect.
Pot to Kettle: “Hey, you’re black!”
LOL!
Funny post, Elys. 
Yeah, that’s why you jumped right into the woman-speak thread and nobody at all posted a problem with the man-speak thread until JohnT said something about equal time.
Not every fucking thread on this forum has to turn into a debate. It was a joke thread posted in response to another joke thread.
It pisses you off that people may wanna have a little fun without you (or other offenderati) shitting in it?
Sometimes the shoe fits.
I wasn’t surprised to see you being the first one pissing and whining about the woman-speak thread.
Because you look for reasons to be offended. I pity you. Really, I do.
Some of my friends are black, too.
I don’t give a rat’s ass if an uptight, easily offended, fly off the handle little twit likes me.
Sure it was. Unless you really cannot live without feeling like a victim. As it seems you can’t.
What exactly should I listen to?
Let’s review, shall we?
I made a tongue in cheek post, with a freakin’ disclaimer for the humor impaired, and you still end up tripping over it and taking it way too seriously and personally. I point out that, no, I don’t want to bash women, it’s just some playful poking fun. You are determined to be offended.
Then we move to this thread, since your mission of killing all the fun in the joke thread has been accomplished.
Here, you cop an amazingly condescending attitutude, acting as if you’re the only one who’s got access to ye Grand Word Horde O’ Facts. (Yes, you smarmy bitch, I’ve read a book or two in my day, too.)
Ahem.
And then, you turn up the smarm-O-matic and imply that if I can only read and learn what the word means, then maybe I should change my sense of humor becuase it really is sexist (you’d know better than me what attitude I had behind my words, after all.). Which I wouldn’t know, of course, being that I’ve never read anything on the subject, and need you to tell me alllll about it.
And you have the fucking nerve to act like a victim when I ‘get my back up’?
Only morons are confused why people get upset when you insult them.
Fuck you.
Eurkea!
A viable joke format.
WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
Some but not all women in this culture at this particular point in time happen to follow a pattern which is set down primarily via socialization and media influences and which is very annoying. We are only refering to those annoying whiners being parodied in this joke.
WARNING! WARNIGN! WARNING!
Don’t you hate it when you get nagged to death the minute you set foot in the door?
WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
Not all women are nagging and annoying. This does not apply to all women.
WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!
Ah, there we go. Safe and sound.
Holy crap, I’m part of the offenderati! Look, jackass, if you bother to read this thread, I’ve been disagreeing with matt_mcl. However, I was doing so in a respectful way, so you may have missed it. I laughed at the original thread. Look, here’s what I said:
Oh look, and here’s an example of me disagreeing with matt
Pretty fucking cut and dry to me. Why don’t you go back and read the original thread and look for where I starting “shitting” on it. Find anything yet? No? Well, that’s probably because I didn’t post in the fucking thing. You can take your ‘offenderati’ label and blow it out your ass.
And my name is lightingtool, not lightningtool.
Hey, I aim to please 
Now that this thread has resorted to name calling, I’m outta here. If you can’t state your point without calling someone an uptight smarmy twitty bitch, then you don’t have a point. I pity you, that you don’t have a clear enough grasp of the language and a good enough grasp on your temper to debate a point rationally.
catsix, I was aware of your posting history before we had our discussion on the IRC channel. I’m not going to bring that discussion in here, but I thought we had a pretty good rational exchange of ideas. I was willing to overlook all the times you have been hostile, unreceptive to new ideas, and antagonistic on the boards in favor of the new viewpoint I had of you in our discussion. I thought that under that prickly exterior might have been someone I would have liked to know, someone who could listen and wasn’t as closeminded as I first thought. Thank you for disabusing me of that notion. I’m sometimes a bit naive.
No doubt you are going to react angrily to that too
Nope, I’m simply going to state that you, Elysian are the kind of uptight, easily offended person that I don’t want to know.
And people wonder why I’m anti-feminist. Because feminists are constantly offended, have to feel like victims, and have no sense of humor.
Okay, really, last post. Do you see anything, anything, ironic about that? Anything at all? Anything? …Beuller?
catsix, thank god you’ve agreed that you don’t want to know me. Because I was actually thinking that I would have taken your side in something in the future. But now that the line has been drawn, a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Have you any idea what the Feminazi Offenderati would have done to me if I’d taken your side in anything? They would have made me give back all my merit badges in whining and bitching, and then they would have taken the toaster away.
You come into a thread in the Pit and expect a rational discussion that doesn’t resort to name calling?
And you’ve been a member here for how long?
So the feelings of the color-blind mean nothing to you, you - you - differently-abled-ist!
Regards,
Shodan
Well, as a Grammar Nazi™ I am deeply offended by the misspelling of “Warning.” DOESN’T ANYBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN???
deep breath
I guess it all depends on how you read these jokes. For example:
When I read those jokes, I giggled at them and thought, “The people in these jokes are funny!”
When others read them, I can only assume they are thinking, “gasp! I’m a woman! That’s not how I act!”
I refuse to be defined by the fact that I was born with two X chromosomes. I laugh at women jokes. I laugh at man jokes. The only time I feel the need to refute something is when someone makes an inaccurate joke about me (and even then ask myself if there might be a reason for the joke, and that it’s probably an exaggeration about one of my traits so it will sound much more humourous). I want to be the best I can be, and not use genders as a metre stick, be it my own or someone else’s.
Sure, I’m female. But these people who posted jokes, they did it to be funny. Even if some were posted as bitter anecdotes to personal experiences, then that means at least one person acted that way. I’m not terribly concerned about it. I know who I am and I’m secure in that. If the posters who made those jokes really believe that about women, that is their problem to deal with, learn from, and get over, not mine. Some of the jokes apply to some women. Some do not. Some even work backwards, with the man as the woman and the woman as the man. Maybe I could understand if you were the SO of one of these “bitter jokes”, but other than that, why concern oneself over a generalisation? If someone is making those generalisations in your life and it’s truly holding you back in a job or what have you, take *that person * to task. My supervisor once snarled at me because I was a vegetarian. I climbed the ranks, anyway. I spoke to him as an individual, and asked him if he had a problem with me. We worked it out. He still made vegetarian jokes, but I made $13 an hour. It’s when he chose to target me, personally, that I took him to task about it. Other than that, let them play. They’re really not hurting you. You really do choose to let things hurt you. My ex had an awesome saying: “People who don’t love me can’t hurt me.” It works quite well.
If one wants to be treated like an individual, act like an individual. Seriously. Get back to me when someone makes a joke about me.
For most verbal humor, I think we have to see a truth in order to laugh.
So, for those of us who don’t see truths in gender stereotypes, jokes about gender are usually either stupid/nonsensical, or mean-spirited. That doesn’t make us “humor-impaired.” It means that we don’t share the same frame of reference. You’re telling jokes that are, essentially, in another language, and the humor is based on assumptions that some of us don’t make.
There are other jokes that I find funny based on assumptions that I make, so I’m not trying to say that making assumptions is eeeevil. Or maybe making assumptions is evil, but I can’t claim that I’m innocent of doing it myself. Not by a long shot.
Just to touch on another issue in this thread: I would say that all humor that is based on the sex of the butt of the joke is sexist. That doesn’t make it evil. It makes it tiresome to me, but so is Britney Spears.
Discrimination based on the sex of a butt is homophobia!
Right on! Power to the People!
Yours in solidarity against the heterosexist, patriarchal, SUV-driving, Third World exploiting, meat-eating, kitten-strangling, oppressivist hegemony,
Shodan
Hey! What’s wrong with a little recreational kitten-strangling?
Oookay.
Wow, this board is depressing sometimes.