Huh. I’m a 43-y.o. American and have never, ever heard this term. The only thing I think of when I hear “Brazil nuts” is Charley’s Aunt.
::shameful smiley:: I’m a 34-year-old American who has heard the term a number of times. But not for about 20 years, thank god.
Unfortunately true story about my late grandmother, who was raised in the Dakotas in the 19-teens.
In the early '70s, a few years before she died, she and my mom and dad were in a car on a car trip when my dad went into a gas station for snacks. Grandma rolled down the window and shouted after him Bring me some n**** toes!* (meaning Brazil nuts). Dad walked rapidly back to the car. “Mom,” he said, “You can’t use that word anymore; it’s really rude.” “Fine,” Grandma replied, “Bring me some Negro toes.”
Clueless old biddy, was Gran.
I’d never heard it till I moved to Mississippi about 7 years ago.
Since then I’ve heard it more often than I’ve heard “Brazil Nuts” which, honestly, isn’t THAT often for either.
-Joe
Never seen the show. Don’t have plans to anytime soon, canceled or not. But I’m troubled by one thing that I’ve heard precious little mention of, either here or in the press.
Regardless of whatever legalities are involved, I don’t believe that the Enquirer (or anyone else for that matter) should have the right to publish a recording like this. Whether or not “Dog” holds racist beliefs is a subject that only he can address. That he has now been tarred with the racist label (as he so prophetically noted) is a certainty. And in today’s PC climate, there is no redemption from this charge. Had Dog’s comments been made in a public forum – well, that would be one thing. But in this instance I feel he had a certain expectation of privacy and that the press has no business airing it to the world. Really and truly, the media feeding frenzy over what should have been a private conversation is something I find disturbing.
I’n thinking if the son had went into "Dog’’'s house and secretly taped “Dog” while he was talking to a friend in his kitchen, then they wouldn’t have published it, but once he willingly left it on his son’s phone, then it becomes legal, like the Alec Baldwin deal. Once your voice leaves your house and you willingly project into someone else’s its fair game. Is this correct, I’m no law talking guy.
Yes, legally speaking, I’m sure it’s in the clear. But Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, I’m talking about what’s right. The same goes with the Alec Baldwin case. I don’t like the guy. And I don’t have any problem with his daughter coming out and saying to the press that he was an asshole to her over the phone. But releasing a recording of the call is low. Repeatedly broadcasting it to all and sundry is low.
In both cases, while the content of the conversations may be reprehensible, I think the press is setting a really scary precedent by running with these stories. It disturbs me just as much that I seem to be the only person who has a problem with it.
Oh if you’re talking strictly morally, then of course you are correct. But almost every big National Enquirer story since day one you could question the morality of in some way.
She is quite the babe.
I just listened to the FULL version of the audio, and have a different opinion. Did you noticed that after the first minute, Dog doesn’t use the word “nigger” again, even though he is talking about the girlfriend?
It seems to me that when he called he was PISSED and let the invectives flow, and then he calmed down.
BTW, what kind of piece of shit is a son that would sell out his dad for money and ruin his career? Dog should have let him rot in prison…
Today they’re called “Toes of Color”. (I’ve heard that in Brazil- true story- their name translates as Bolivia Nuts.)
Is that an excuse? Non-racist people don’t start screaming “nigger” no matter how pissed they are.
What kind of piece of shit dad tells his son that the woman he’s in love with is a “fucking nigger?” The son did the right thing, dude.
I don’t knw what this is in reference to, but is Dog a judge or something? Does he have control of how long people spend in prison?
Not necessarily. Remember, Dog grew up in Texas in the 1960s. I see that you grew up in MN, so that racial tensions in your formative years weren’t quite the same. When you are mad, sometimes you lose your temper at hit below the belt. And as far as him using that word, from my experience, low-educated whites from the south use that term very much, because it is what they heard their male role models say.
Not that it makes it right, but it can be used without racial animosity being the movitating factor.
Whatever disagreements Tucker may have had with his Dad should have been handled in private. He had every right to be pissed at his Dad for not approving of him dating a black girl.
But for him to take the step of destroying his Dad (and the rest of his family)s career and making a few bucks for himself should be criminal. That’s his Dad…
Tucker was sentenced to 18 years and was paroled in 4. You don’t think that Dog, with his celebrity status, helped pull a few strings, and giving him a job helping him with early parole?
Yup, that’s the point at which I would disown my dad. Write him out of my life.
“Hey dad, guess what! This means your own flesh and blood grandchildren will be “niggers” too! How do you like them apples? Fuck off and die, old man.”
That’s what the entire incident keeps reverting to for me, no matter how “out of context” and “out of character” the remarks were according to Dog. Unless you’re directly quoting somebody else, perhaps, or terrorists have a gun pointed to your head, there simply IS NO NON-RACIST CONTEXT for calling an individual a nigger.
I live in a city that’s 50% black, went to a predominantly black school, and several of my bosses and many of my co-workers over the years have been black. Consequently, I’ve been pissed off at individual black people many times over the years and I’ve referred to them in less than glowing terms in various rants, but “fucking nigger” was never something I called them. I was quite willing, able, and even preferred emotionally and aesthetically keeping the insults and namecalling focused on the person himself/herself (though strangely I have used the word “whitetrash”, “cracker”, “redneck”, and even once or twice “ofay” in dealing with white people I was pissed at). Dog lives in a state with a 12% black population and judging from his show most of his bounties aren’t black, so how hard can it be for him not to say the word? Fucking whitetrash ofay redneck.
He probably would just refuse to acknowledge them, and Og knows he has enough children that he can pick and choose. I have known people who had biracial grandchildren or other relatives who just completely refused to accept them as legitimate family members. It wasn’t a matter of not believing they were related, they just had no contact with them and, like Sirius Black’s mother, burned their names from the family tree. Dog would probably do likewise. (Incidentally, not all of the cases I’ve known of people refusing to accept biracial relatives were white people; black people and other races can be unyielding and intolerant over “race mixing” as well, then there’s the case of a Jewish dairyman I knew who when his third daughter married a Gentile sa… wait, that wasn’t me.)
I did not grow up in Minnesota. I live in Minnesota now but I am originally from Louisiana. I am intimately familiar with the deep south. I heard plenty of relatives using that word when I grew up. I never heard my parents say it, though. My mother was raised in Louisiana before the civil rights movement by a racist mother (my maternal grandmother thought Martin Luther King was the antichrist) and I never in my life heard her resort to that word no matter how pissed off or drunk she was.
I stand corrected. But I will assume that you aren’t low educated either…
Well, considering his past, I don’t think it should come as a shock that the guy isn’t very good at foreseeing the negative consequences of his actions.
He was stupid to say that, but it doesn’t really bother me that he has a show since I have never seen someone’s presence on TV as being an indication that they are a role model whose behavior/views I should emulate. shrug Even people who are stupid, wrong, or bad in some way can still be interesting to watch (as has been demonstrated by the popularity of many of the other reality shows, actually).
Here’s a shocker: Hannity defends the scumbag.
Another shocker: A&E has pulled the plug.