Oh, we’re playing equivalence, are we? Well, let’s see–these are all events that have happened very recently, so in order to play equivalence I expect to see at least as many incidents of similar magnitude that have been perpetrated by the left side of the spectrum, within the same timeframe, got it?
So, we have one office with a randomly fractured window from a randomly fired spent bullet that nearly tore the curtains and one intentionally tampered with gas line that could have ended in multiple deaths and a huge fucking explosion. EQUIVALENCY FAIL.
I don’t really understand how Twitter works (I have an account that I never use), so maybe I’m missing something, but it looks to me like it’s impossible to respond to her comments.
I won’t go quite so far as our esteemed friend Der Trihs, however, Ms. Palin is playing to her fans. The ones that yell “He’s a terrorist” in reference to Obama. The ones that suggest an armed march on Washington is a good idea. The ones that throw bricks through windows of Democrat offices. The ones that mail or phone death threats. The ones that cut gas lines to houses with children living in them.
She’s tapping into strong emotions sure… and she’s implying (wink wink) that perhaps that if “her people” are upset about the fact that their country is being stolen from under them by supporters of muslim terrorism, then perhaps they should think of gun targets on Democrat senators, and think of words like “RELOAD”
You know what she means, dontcha?
(wink wink)
After all, this health thing was “rammed down our throats”, right? Good Republicans just had no say whatsover, the poor things. Them democrats must be subverting democracy somehow, right?
You’re either hopelessly naive or stupid. Or both, of course.
Oh, you mean like the Patriot Act, or free speech zones, or the ruling that the government can take you land in order to benefit a corporations (that Supreme Court ruling) and any number of other things?
Gee. Maybe I should have started my own tea Party years ago :dubious:
Yeah it’s equivalency. But when we hollered about those things it was treason. Now, it’s partiotic Americans standing up against the Tyrant.
Bull fucking shit.
And lest we forget, Smashy, I’d still like to hear some sort of substantiation for that vile slur about Dems burning black churches to blame the Pubbies. Right now, I’m thinking its a bald faced lie, but if you show me something, we might get that down to hysterical exaggeration.
I’m only relaying what I have heard from many conservative friends and neighbors. They feel that legislation this far reaching should never have been done in back rooms and with no transparency. They constantly harp on the deals that were cut, the deem and pass, etc…
You’ve mixed a lot of apples and oranges in your post/rant, I’m guessing you weren’t actually looking for a conversation about those.
And for the record: I think I’ve changed my mind on this topic. What did it for me is the three (!) callers on this morning’s local DC drive-time radio show who suggested that ‘it’s time to take up rifles’ and similar stuff. I can’t believe that some people are that far gone. Most of the counterargument on the show involved the fact that the Democrats have immediately changed the topic and grabbed victimhood as a means to distract from what’s a pretty unpopular bill. Which may be true - the Dems like to tell stories from the point of view of victims and oppressed classes of people.
Marley, surely you don’t think that this bill was uncontroversial, do you? I don’t know what circles you run in, but out where I am, people think that this was a screwjob of the highest order. They think that it will interfere with their relationship with their doctor (probably true) and will bankrupt the country (almost certainly true).
From their perspective, and the perspective of a plurality of Americans, this bill was rammed down their throats. And the GOP was powerless to stop it, so they feel frustrated, and that frustration needs to come out somewhere. One place will be at the ballot box in November, as the right will be about as highly motivated as I think they’ve ever been.
So, to answer your question, no the phenomenon did not start this past week, it’s been building for awhile (birthers, tea party rallies, etc). But this bill’s passage, which in many’s eyes stinks to high heaven, was the straw breaking the camel’s back.
I disagree. However I think the politicians will leverage the crazies’ emotion for their own ends. Both sides have done this in the past.
As for why isn’t MSNBC promoting them? I dunno, ask them. I guess they, being a liberal ‘news’ station, want more government, and the tea party people want less?
There are intelligent conservatives out there, but it sounds like none of them live near you.
What a brilliant tactic! Distract people from how unpopular the bill is by saying the bill is so unpopular people are threatening to kill them because they voted for it. Soon they’ll forget all about the bill. Granted we’re talking about Democrats, but this doesn’t make sense as a strategy. It speaks volumes about these maniacs that people are (sorta) trying to calm them down not by saying “it’s wrong to committ murder,” but by saying “if you murder them, it will work to their political advantage.” In any case, a few Democrats really have been threatened with murder here, so saying they have ‘grabbed victimhood’ is bullshit. Cantor seems pretty desperate to get them to shut up, which explains why he is trying to inflate this bullet story, but this may keep going until someone gets shot. The threatening letters are bad enough, but what happened to the Periellos was attempted murder.
And the reason so many people think this is that deliberate lies by Republicans and right-wing media have so muddied up the water that the average person doesn’t know WHAT to think about the whole thing. That doesn’t make the reform bill itself responsible for this utter bullshit. It makes the Republicans and right-wing media, deliberate liars all, responsible for this utter bullshit. There are 200 Republican-suggested amendments to this bill, which IS ITSELF pretty much the Republican response healthcare bill to “Hillarycare” from the early 90s.
Try to look past the noxious clouds of hypocrisy and bafflegab.
I would say your friends and neighbors are morons, and that’s being gentle. As for back rooms and transparency, I bet they didn’t mind it at all, whe “their boys” were in the White House, and wll leave it at that. Your friends and neighbors are fucking idiots. Stop repeating their drivel. As for yourself, the fact that you have trouble undertanding how “those people” are acting, just means you are one of the sane ones out there. You KNEW that something is wrong when people are calling for a 'it’s time to take up rifles and similar stuff". And, it’s not victimhood, if the loonies are talking about shooting, targeting, or are sending death threats or are cutting gas lines.
