I would never wish that death on anyone and certainly would have been in favor for granting the abortion. You assume my stance on abortion is hard line pro life and you are incorrect.
Sure. I’ll go back into the shadows and enjoy your conversations as a passive observer as I have done for years. Well, mostly I skip over your posts, Beck.
I think this is the right answer!
It was less intentional than it came off. I am sorry for all the fuss I’ve caused.
Selling someone for meat crosses a line for me.
Theoretically I’d not be opposed to giving people the chance to dine on the executed so long as the cost to do so was substantial ($1,0000 is way too little) and the money went to the victims Family.
And yes, fetuses are human! But killing a human and killing a fetus don’t have similar emotional connotations.
The people who you’re mocking here, the people who abort fetuses big enough for a meal (that is, 20 weeks plus) likely just went through a heart-rending decision because the woman was diagnosed with cancer, the father died and she can no longer support herself, or the fetus was found to have severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive anyway. So, congratulations on mocking people in those situations, you disgusting excuse for a human being.
Is it your idiotic view that pro-choice people don’t consider fetuses to be human flesh? I mean, that’s what’s implied in your disgusting and idiotic thread. So, if you want to be a cannibal, don’t let me stop you, shit-for-brains. If you’re going to hang around funeral homes to try and grab a bite, I would stick to Jewish and Islamic ones, since they don’t use embalming fluid. Although, I can’t imagine that fluid having a negative effect on your intelligence.
Everyone else – we should be thankful. This is a troll thread where it makes sense to post recipes.
Baka, welcome to the Straight Dope. I hope your time here is short.
I never meant to mock people in desperate situations. I meant to challenge some pro choice folks who think a fetus isn’t a baby/human.
For those folks I’d expect my proposition to eat the aborted fetus to not be morally reprehensible action. That’s all really.
I believe a fetus is a baby and a human and I believe a baby has value. I also believe that people should have autonomy in their choices so I would not push my choice for life onto someone else who chooses an abortion
I’m sorry for the anger and hurt I’ve caused. It truly wasn’t a well thought out post. I’m appreciative of this points you made Ritter. Thanks for the education.
I’ll do everyone a favor and go back to being a passive observer.
Look, you’re starting to sound like a reasonable person so why don’t you ask a mod to close this thread. Just report your own post and ask to close it. Then, if you really want a discussion or a debate on abortion (any kind or late term or whatever), open up a new, more reasonable and well thought out thread in GD, MPSIMS, or IMHO, depending on the kind of discussion you’re looking for. Maybe you’ll learn something about the reality of late-term abortions and do your sig line some service.
And yet many (if not most) conservatives are willing to make allowances for rape, incest, and life of the mother, including the current president.
I’d wager that even conservatives who don’t want to make allowances for those exceptions at least struggle with that position from a moral standpoint, as making someone carry the child of her rapist is a tough pill to swallow.
Based on that, it seems to me that most people in this country are OK with ending a human fetal life in at least some circumstances. The rest is left up to details of when and why. If you’re willing to paint liberals as unfeeling murderous monsters for having a pro-choice stance, then it only seems consistent to apply that same view to conservatives who are willing to “murder” fetal humans in the case of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother. Including Trump.
I can’t think of any instances where the pathology departments I’ve worked in have refused requests for patient specimens (such requests are received once in a while for gallstones and such which are apparently de rigueur for display in a glass jar on one’s mantelpiece).
It gets more complicated if you want an entire organ, as it will have been pickled in formalin, and while you can rinse them to eliminate the worst fumes, formalin is still regarded as a (relatively) low level carcinogen, so you’d probably have to sign a form indicating you are aware of the risk. Once we had a woman request (and receive) her uterus that she wanted to bury in her back yard.
Oh, and fetuses (and miscarriage-type specimens) are sometimes requested and returned for burial for once they’ve received pathologic examination.
As for Placenta Helper, you’d probably have to order it on eBay or Amazon.
Had you simply opened a thread saying that you “believe a fetus is a baby and a human and a baby has value”, you could have had a reasonable debate with people. Instead, you chose to poison the well with this idiotic proposition.
We don’t eat human meat because it was a person and we tend to respect peoples lives and thus find it Unsanctimonious to eat them. Obviously it has nothing to do with the actual meat. Only what the meat was: a person.
Similarly many are opposed to eating dolphin: they are playful, intelligent etc. and we can almost personify (and eating people isn’t nice) them whereas it’s harder to do that with a chicken or the like. (Yes, I’ve had dolphin. You aren’t missing anything).
Some people totally dehumanize (DNA aside please) a fetus. When your question is posed to these folks I would expect them to say “there is nothing morally reprehensible in eating a fetus but there is with eating a human brain”. Because a fetus isn’t a person.
If there is an objection to eating a fetus It might challenge their way of viewing a fetus as something entirely devoid of personhood/humanity.
I wholly agree with your logic. I’m wondering if my asinine proposition to eat fetuses will shine a light on the holes in some other peoples logic.
**I took Ritter Sports advice and asked the mods to close this thread. Not sure why they didn’t.
But I also wouldn’t want to eat a tumor that someone carved out of someone’s uterus. Not because I believe that there is some inherent person-hood in that tumor, or even that I necessarily believe it would be immoral but because I would find it gross. No if I grew up among certain tribes in New Guinea I might feel differently.
I see abortion as a sad choice to have to make. I don’t think it’s ever a win/win. It’s not something I M in favor of but I’m also not in favor of dictating other peoples ethics/morality.
Thus I am against legislation forbidding abortion.
I do believe in the sanctity of human life and that includes the unborn. I’m am against abortion but I leave the decision to The individual, not the law.