Even Michele Bachman is backing away from the birther nutters Bachmann joins GOPers distancing themselves from birther issue - CNN.com
You know if it’s too wacky for Bachman, it’s really really wacky.
Even Michele Bachman is backing away from the birther nutters Bachmann joins GOPers distancing themselves from birther issue - CNN.com
You know if it’s too wacky for Bachman, it’s really really wacky.
Much of her fan club seems to be deserting her over her craven surrender to the forces of logic and reason.
(Warning: Here be FReepers)
"Bachmann said Wednesday that she accepted the validity of a signed, stamped Certification of Live Birth that showed the president was born in Hawaii in 1961. “Well, then that should settle it,” Bachmann, a favorite of the conservative Tea Party movement, said on seeing the document…Asked if that ended the story. Bachmann said “I guess it’s over”
Will wonders never cease.
Its a trap!
Some political advisor must have told her she needed to drop this if she was really entertaining any serious thoughts at all about running for a national election.
That’s okay. Someone elsehas picked up her torch.
[QUOTE=Charlie Sheen]
“For starters, I was f**king born here, how about that? And I got proof! Nothing photoshopped about my birth certificate,” Sheen said; the Washington Post reports that the comment elicited mostly cheers.
[/QUOTE]
But but…
I’m so confused. Are the not the people that Starving Artist assured us were
??
They don’t seem too busy to figure out the facts. Actually, they seem to be quite adept at posting on a board like this one, and do seem to be quite opinionated and animated about the Birther issue.
So… too busy to ferret out the truth? It does not seem so with these folks.
Then let us take some comfort in the fact that it is possible for to choose that course of action over firing the adviser.
Karl Rove.
Sheen/Busey 2012!
That’d certainly prove all those mayan/2012 people right. And honestly if we’re going to go, those two would take us out in rather grand fashion. The idea has a certain “Why the fuck not” charm to it.
Count me in.
Yes, a small amount of research would dispel the notion, but first two things have to happen. One, there has to be enough interest and motivation to cause someone to decide to research it; and two, they would need to happen upon the correct information. I say happen upon because the newspaper announcement isn’t obvious and it isn’t something that would occur to most people. So unless they happen to come across a Google (or some other) hit that brings it up, they won’t know about it.
Again, there are lots of people out there who see or hear snippets of information…often conflicting snippets of information…with regard to this issue who simply aren’t interested in the subject enough to research it, nor to weed through the conflicting information they know is out there on the subject.
Take for example the Drudge page from earlier today. At the top were blurbs which read:
“Missing documents in Hawaii. Missing documents in Kenya. Missing documents in Indonesia.”
“The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President”
These lines were followed by the cover photograph of an upcoming book entitled:
WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President
by Jerome R. Corsi, PhD
Now, people happening upon that Drudge page, or another page either referring to or derived from it, would clearly get the impression from this blurb that there may be legitimate questions regarding Obama’s birth and his eligibility to be president.
But they also get impressions from links to dozens of other articles on the same page, and they be no more inclined to click on the Obama book article than they are on any of the other links. They may just not care much one way or the other. But they still come away with an impression that there are things regarding the circumstances and documents related to Obama’s birth that seem to be in question. What I’m saying is that this person can not necessarily be judged to be stupid simply because that impression didn’t cause him to then go ferreting about on the internet trying to get to the bottom of it. People may be unconcerned; they may be oblivious; or they may be of the opinion that what they may learn would be of no consequence anyway since it’s up to congress and the courts to determine whether the issue has merit. There are lots of reasons why people may pick up impressions of this issue but not be sufficiently arsed to investigate it. And what I’m also saying is that it is no indicator of their intelligence if they aren’t.
For some time I’ve been of the belief that posters in the thread who don’t seem to get that point understood it full well were just yanking my chain, but the fact that you don’t seem to understand it either has given me pause. All I can say now is that if this post doesn’t make my point clear to you as a person with no liberal axe to grind, then I guess I may just have to give up trying to explain it. ![]()
Who the hells just “happens” upon the Drudge? That’s like saying you were walking past the whorehouse, but fell in.
I couldn’t care less if you disrespect it or me. As I said in the very post you quoted, the “respect” issue is a con job dreamt up by luci. I never said a word about it.
And if you want to call my objection to the notion of being limited to a certain number of posts per thread to be whining or feeling picked on, well, all I can say to that is: you’re a dumbass. ![]()
Hey coward! Any chance you gonna take a moment to address my post? When you run away like a hysterical bitch it really doesn’t do you much good.
No one here (aside from Clothahump) respects you. Wouldn’t you like to change that?
There are lots of reasons why a person not interested in Obama’s birth might go to Drudge’s page. It’s a handy repository of links to a variety of news stories. It’s a handy repository of links to a variety of columnists, including more that a few who are liberal columnists. And there are tons of reasons and occasions where the Drudge Report might be mentioned elsewhere out on teh intarwebs, and people can find themselves directed to it from there as well.
Anything else?
Nope. Schoolyard taunts didn’t work when I was a child and they don’t work here either.
Not so. I even get admiring PMs from time to time congratulating me on my ability to withstand the shitstorm. And more often than not they come from liberal posters. Who’da thunk it, huh?
Other times I get messages guiding me to some particularly egregious bits of liberal bullshit because the posters who send them know I’ll say what they admittedly don’t have the courage to say themselves.
Now you can believe this or not, I don’t care. The only reason I mention it is to let you know that I know better. (Not that it would matter anyway. In case you hadn’t noticed, I’m not exactly trying to win a popularity contest here.)
What I would like to change is your maturity level.
Your intelligence I regard as hopeless. ![]()
Jerome Corsi is nuts. In World Net Daily he championed this **fake **birth certificate that allegedly came from Kenya:
But a simple look at Snopes shows this:
http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/kenyacert2.jpg
So yeah, it does not matter that the courts tell them to take a hike, and they do.. attempting to then take it to the court of public opinion, but as even Bachman could tell you the birters are a fringe of a fringe.
There are lots of reasons why a person not interested in Obama’s birth might go to Drudge’s page. It’s a handy repository of links to a variety of news stories.
So people might go to the Drudge Report to find lots of handy links to news stories, but not actually be interested in reading those stories?
But they also get impressions from links to dozens of other articles on the same page, and they be no more inclined to click on the Obama book article than they are on any of the other links. They may just not care much one way or the other. But they still come away with an impression that there are things regarding the circumstances and documents related to Obama’s birth that seem to be in question. What I’m saying is that this person can not necessarily be judged to be stupid simply because that impression didn’t cause him to then go ferreting about on the internet trying to get to the bottom of it. People may be unconcerned; they may be oblivious; or they may be of the opinion that what they may learn would be of no consequence anyway since it’s up to congress and the courts to determine whether the issue has merit. There are lots of reasons why people may pick up impressions of this issue but not be sufficiently arsed to investigate it. And what I’m also saying is that it is no indicator of their intelligence if they aren’t.
Anyone who bases their beliefs on any internet sites’s front page is willfully ignorant or blindly stupid. I don’t care whether that person is on my side or yours. Knowledge requires research and study, and people who who don’t do the work don’t get credit.
There are lots of reasons why a person not interested in Obama’s birth might go to Drudge’s page. It’s a handy repository of links to a variety of news stories. It’s a handy repository of links to a variety of columnists, including more that a few who are liberal columnists. And there are tons of reasons and occasions where the Drudge Report might be mentioned elsewhere out on teh intarwebs, and people can find themselves directed to it from there as well.
Anything else?
Yeah. I got something, you nitwit. These hypothetical people who are bereft of any and all free time whatsoever is just going to be fucking around on the goddamned drudge report and what? Stop there? They’ve got that much time but not a single minute more.
I can’t wait to see how you get out of the corner your dumb ass just painted yourself into. I’m assuming just ignoring my post the same way you are ignoring Lobohan’s