We didn’t comment on it because it was factually incorrect. Musk didn’t lose it. Tesla did. Your cite even says so. Also, there is quite a bit of difference between taxable corporate earnings and stock value, and I’m rather embarrassed for you in having made the comparison.
So Trump personally owns the property losing money , or he owns the company that owns the property?
Musk didn’t lose billions. The company that Musk owns shares in lost billions. Musk still got paid by Tesla and Musk’s salary is part of the loss that Tesla incurred. If Musk applied the losses Tesla as his own personal deductions, it would be similar to what Trump did on his taxes. It would be like me applying those billions of losses on my own 1040 form because I own some shares in Tesla.
There does seem to be this constant circular argument going on.
DOJ: We can’t indict the president while he is in office, it is a political issue that is up to the voters, we can only present the evidence.
Voters: There wasn’t an indictment, so there must not be enough evidence for me to believe that he did it.
The Potus, in the American peoples first debate of 2020, called for a terrorist org to “stand by.”
Now you need him to say “Attack”?
If he says “Attack” then the issue will be did they actually do it, how much damage was done, and most of all did tormp “really mean it” in the terroristic sense. My prediction is that, for you, he didn’t really mean it. It was just a “quirk”, but we really need to get down to the details and find out what he did that was “illegal” under the law, in the lawbooks that they study in law school.
I, for one, think Elon Musk is more than a little bit like Trump, and his image as a successful businessman is overhyped.
He does not have my vote in 2020.
Also didn’t comment on it because this thread is not about Musk. Musk has nothing to do with Trump’s taxes.
At all.
You know who interpreted his remarks telling them to stand by to mean exactly what Trump intended it to mean? The actual terrorists he is inciting. Your attempted spin, notwithstanding.
Why respond to a point that is beside the point?
Musk isn’t president. He isn’t tasked with safeguarding the citizens of this nation. His personal financial situation is not at issue with respect to his ability to resist blackmail or manipulation by adverse foreign actors. Trump’s situation is very much a concern with respect to these things.
The sole point of my post was to counter the argument that Trump must be broke because some of his companies lost millions. I gave an example of another billionaire that owns a lot of a company that is losing billions, and he is still a billionaire.
How many bails did it take to make up that anyone said Musk was running for president?
I don’t need him to say anything. I need you to show how requesting that a group not act is the same as asking them to act.
As I’ve explained before, there’s a huge difference between Jeff Bezos/Amazon, Elon Musk/Tesla…and Trump & the Trump Org. The first two are publicly-traded companies. There is a lot more transparency about these companies. They have investors. And why do they have investors? Because investors read their financial reports that they have to disclose to regulators? Can these reports be falsified? Sure, but over time, accountants are much more likely to catch these kinds of irregularities just by having public documentation.
Trump, on the other hand, doesn’t really show us that much. It’s hard to understand how he really makes his money. He’s also different from pretty much every presidential candidate who’s ever disclosed his tax records. If you believe Trump’s claims, he’s the richest candidate ever to run for the White House, yet he pays almost no taxes, whereas even those who are substantially less wealthy on the surface pay substantially more taxes. Those are wildly inconsistent truths that require a better explanation than “Yabbut, what about Tesla?!”
If you think telling the proud boys to do anything at all as Potus during the presidential debate is OK, and saying “Stand by” is asking them to “not act” then I don’t think we’re speaking the same english.
It was one of many anti democratic, fascistic feints tormp made last night.
Do you really expect that in the debate he would say “OK proud boys. Go act!” He made his best attempt to get them in the tent, and a successful one. I get the feeling you aren’t the best at reading people. It seems to be your forte to not read human behavior well and then make demands that others explain why that would be.
Asking a specific white supremist group to stand down acknowledges that he has a level of control and understanding with them, asking the same group to stand by is giving them an order. An order from the freaking commander in chief of our armed forces.
He was asked to denounce all white supremist groups, but he choose to mention one by name. Thus elevating their relationship with him. Anything this group does now is on Trump.
Well, to be accurate, Trump mentioned the Proud Boys because, when he challenged Chris Wallace to tell him who he should denounce, and Wallace reiterated “white supremacists,” Biden specifically added “Proud Boys.”
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/politics/proud-boys-trump-white-supremacists-debate/index.html
Trump did NOT say “stand down,” which means, “as you were – orders canceled.”
Trump said “stand by,” which means “wait for orders.”
I stand corrected. My brain is getting fried by all of this.
If you are a fascist, and you are in the actual potus debate, just tone it down when addressing your base. Don’t tell them what to do specifically. Just say “stand by”. They love it. And you never told them to take an action so nobody knows you are responsible. OK go get em tiger!
Exactly, and here the real story is being obscured based on what I find to be over-the-top charges, based on the few words Trump said. That story if of course that Trump refused to openly denounce such groups. That is what the lead story should be.
It wouldn’t make a difference anyway. Trump stood on a stage in front of cameras and an audience and told Russia to hack the Democrats’ servers, and the Russians did that very day. And his supporters still deny there was any connection at all.