Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

Name one–just one–GOP candidate who wanted to shut down NP and supported GMO labeling laws. Just one. There were, what, 16 candidates so if conservatives really were as afraid of GMO+NP you should be able to find one.

Then name one–just one–conservative group that fights GMO and NP as hard as Greenpeace, Sierra Club, and the Green Party. Just one. If this was really a bi-partisan issue as you suggest then there should be a couple of them.

How does Sanders fit in this? He is moderately anti-GMO and virulently anti-NP. I’ve pointed out in the past: the GAO stated that Yucca Mountain was shut down by Obama for purely political reasons. That sounds like pandering to anti-NP agendas.

Back to more on-target discussion: apparently North Korea is endorsing Trump. If that isn’t the kiss of death then I don’t know what is.

It’s possible to be in favour of GMO labelling laws but not anti-GMO. That’s more or less my position, if people want to be idiots and pay more for food because they don’t want to eat GMO then that’s their decision. I don’t see that mandatory labelling would really hurt GMO technology development because in most less developed countries “anti-GMO” is not really a thing and those countries are where GMO foods can make the biggest difference.

And I wouldn’t agree that Sanders is “virulently anti-NP”, his argument is that renewables, geothermal and biomass are now more cost effective than Nuclear. Certainly that’s a fair argument to make and something that should be studied, especially if you take into account the decommissioning costs of Nuclear power plants which are huge. There’s a big difference between rejecting nuclear power because you’ve done the maths and it’s not cost effective vs rejecting nuclear power just because of irrational fears of radiation.

Well that article’s a few months old, so apparently it wasn’t quite the big issue people might have thought it would be. It will make for a great scene in the screwball comedy that’s sure to be made about his campaign, though.

I will respectfully disagree re: GMO labeling. It panders to the anti-science crowd and it is impossible to construct a meaningful GMO labeling law.

Sanders wants to shut down all NP in the US. You can’t get any more anti-NP than that.

Perhaps The Interview will have a sequel?

WTF do GMOs, Bernie Sanders and NP have to do with this thread?

Seriously. Start another thread(s) for that, please.

The “crooked media” won’t be on the ballot, so by all means, I encourage him to use the next 90-some days to run against them.

You never get tired of showing all how much you are missing on this?

Ben Carson:

Donald Trump made the Tweet about Monsanto causing brain damage to Iowans and that is why he lost there. Of course Trump took it down but he never clarified if he backed down for insulting Iowans and not for being against GMOs. Knowing Trump it is clear that he will back down even from that back down.

Marco Rubio just talked like a lukewarmer in a climate change debate. Still in the end in favor of labeling.

They do not need to as they already have many in congress that voted to pass the labeling bill. AFAIK the bill does look as if the Democrats and Republicans in congress did not follow much what Greenpeace and many of those groups wanted to anyhow.

On this issue most corporations are in favor of GMOs, but not so the rank and file Republicans.

The big orange cowbell. I laughed my ass off over this.

I believe that Deeg was trying to argue that the left is just as irrational about some issues (GMO and Nuclear Power) as the right is about certain issues. He’s failed miserably because the loony left has far less power than the loony right.

Yeah, let’s start teaching that we have two equally equivalent theories to the origin of life as many Republicans would like to do. No one knows the truth anyway. Were you there at the creation of life? I know I wasn’t. It’s harmless. it doesn’t really matter in our day to day existence. Why not let the children decide what’s true? After all, they’re just ‘theories.’ In fact, how about we apply this to all science education and see where it gets us in twenty years?

(All kidding aside, I don’t think it’s harmless. I think it demonstrates a fundamental disconnect with reality.)

Okay, so recent polls have Hillary leading by 9-10 points in Virginia, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire. Even if Trump somehow were to right his ship and swing national polls back 5 points or so, what plausible winning map is available to him? This is the most favourable map for Trump that I can come up with, and he still needs to flip one more state.

If Trump had anything resembling a competent campaign, what would its strategy be?

I’ve seen comments here and there expressing surprise that Trump is attacking the media rather than Clinton. I can’t see why it should be surprising: Trump’s priority is and will always be himself, so it follows that his main opponent will be whoever he feels is casting aspersions on him (and the party be damned). At the moment it’s the media, for having the temerity to report what he’s saying rather than wait for his spokesbacilli to present the usual one-from-column-a-one-from-column-b menu of possible interpretations.

Not sure what strategy he could use, but it looks like Paul Manafort (Trump’s campaign manager) past will become a monkey wrench. Manafort appears to be an even bigger gremlin from the Kremlin than it was suspected…

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?_r=0

So, will Trump continue to push for a government of the Putin, by the Putin and for Putin? Or dump his “best” manager so far?

It’s not far from a lost cause, were the election this week, unless the polls are way wrong. Weird stuff can happen between now and November, but I don’t expect Trump to be as successful as his nominating campaign was, to say the least. There just aren’t enough angry and/or racist white men; women, non-white men, and increasingly white men with college degrees are not too keen on his message.

You know, I was almost afraid for people to start using this, because I was afraid it would start another “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” laugh-fest.

You know, like when Hillary Clinton coined the phrase “Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy” and everyone laughed at the woman being targeted by a vast conspiracy which was right-wing in nature? It became a laugh line, a “look at the crazy liberal who thinks the GOP is trying to take her down by fair means or foul” kind of deal, as the GOP funded investigation after investigation and in the end pretended that a lie resulting from a question over a blowjob was worth an impeachment proceeding.

She was laughed out of the room for noticing reality and speaking it aloud, is what I’m saying.

Well, I’m still kind of afraid of that, I’m still kind of afraid this will become a “look at the loony liberals afraid that someone who has ties to the Kremlin is tied to the Kremlin” scenario, but I think this time people might be more willing to believe that a guy who’s done batshit crazy dangerous shit from day one is tied to batshit crazy dangerous shit. Call me an optimist.

Those plus a heavy focus on NH to get to 269 tie with him winning the tie.

Yes it’s a big lift but it is a small state to focus on and if he was running a competent campaign (that is the hypothetical) he would be/could be competitive there. It may be too late to become competitive there but IMHO it is his least poor path: low Black and Hispanic population and with a fair number of non-college educated Whites. If he was able to win the usual traditional slim majority of college educated Whites there while increasing rural White margin and turnout even a bit he could turn that state around.

From the linked article:

Yes, yes we do Donnie. And it seems like they want to elect you their King.

Trump’s new problem: His lead on economic issues is gone

Per CNN: