Donald Trump's 2016 General Election Campaign

Mr. Noun Verb 9/11 is gone. He sacrificed his whole shtick to Donald Trump, and he will never be back.

He just renounced any shred of legitimacy he ever had. Not that it made much of a pile on the altar of Trumpismo, but he ignited it just the same.

I can understand how Trump gets people to vote for him and rally for him. I can’t quite understand how he gets people who should be shrewd political operators to sacrifice their careers to him. Maybe one of the things Trump’s doing to the GOP is showing us all just how terrible their politicians are at being politicians. Sure, they might be terrible people, and they might be massive hypocrites, but we never really knew that they were horrible at the basic act of politicking until Trump proved them to be fools even on that count.

I want some “extreme vetting” of Melania’s completely bullshit story of flying home every few months to stamp her visa.

You know, now that you mention it, I do vaguely remember something about that…

Nope. This is a digression but I’d like to refer you to the Texas Freedom Network–which does include some religious people. Goals include continuing separation of church & state. And support for science. (Texas schools do not teach Creationism/Intelligent Design; some work is needed in the social studies curriculum.) If parents want their kid to learn ID, they should teach it at home. Myth & legend can be studied as an adjunct to literature–not science.

So, a Texas-relevant story on the Trump campaign? From the Texas Tribune: “Trump Spokeswoman Katrina Pierson: We All Make Mistakes.”

She blames her errors (like stating President Obama began the War in Afghanistan) on “technical glitches” & a Trump team spokesman says they appreciate her…

I guess those weren’t the oral talents she was hired for.

Obama was the founder of Al Qaeda. You know, Obama bin Laden. So 9/11 is Obama’s fault too.

Um, Scott, you aren’t drawing Mallard Fillmore you know.

In his defence ( :smack: ) I’m sure he meant to say the equally idiotic ‘no Islamic terrorist attacks in America after 9/11’, which has actually been a Republican/Fox News boast since Obama’s been in office.

I’m assuming Giuliani has seen how well crazy statements have worked for Trump and he’s taking the opening steps towards a 2020 run.

How in hell could he even think he could get away with making that claim? Is he looking to pick up the under-20 vote for Trump?

What motivates him to plainly and baldfaced lie like that?

According to Slate (?!), he probably meant either except for 9/11 or since 9/11. :confused:

Nobody remembers the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. And how when Clinton tried to address this he was accused of ‘wagging the dog’. Fuckers, all of them.

From my yoof, seems to fit right in:

Gee, the Republicans sure are lucky that nobody remembers all the anti-Clinton attacks launched over the past quarter-century, giving them the ability to stir fresh outrage by recycling them.

Well, it has to be somebody’s fault besides Bush- we all know Bush’s term started on Sept 12, 2001. Ghouliani has been milking the corpses of 9/11 for almost 15 years now. Ever since then he’s been basking in the limelight and taking credit for… well there must be something. Time for Gu911ani to crawl back under the rock from whence he came.

Look at the shrewd politicians who have supported him: Christie, Giuliani, Gingrich. They all wanted to be president themselves and completely failed. Trump was their last chance to have at least some taste of the White House, even if nothing more than serving in an advisory role. Now these slim chances are getting slimmer.

“Aside from that, Mrs Kennedy, how did you enjoy the parade?”

Too soon!

Adams has really gone off the deep end regarding the polls and election rigging. As he is prone to do he’s now barreling down a road he knows nothing about.

His theory is that… what, that the polls are fixed? How many different ways does that make absolutely no sense whatsoever? I can think, off the top of my head, of five:

  1. There is no reason whatsoever for a reputable pollster to fix the poll results on Clinton’s behalf, aside from an unhidably huge payoff, which

  2. Would be so massive Clinton couldn’t possibly hide it.

  3. Clinton’s campaign has no particular reason to do this; it confers no clear advantage upon her campaign to pretend they are winning if they are losing. Any supposed benefit you can come up with is a vague theory and is countered by a vague theory that it would hurt more than it helps. For one, obviously, encouraging Democrat voters to be complacent in what is actually a close election is crazy. As I have noted in other threads, voter complacency - for which the evidence of any real effect is extremely limited - usually doesn’t matter because it only occurs in blowouts when complacency won’t much change things. But if the election were close, it could change things.

  4. Adams’s entire argument collapses anyway because if what he is saying is true, Trump’s campaign would also be fixing the polls and the election. His “BS filter” theory states, in summary: If something has great opportunity for gain and opportunity for cheating, then people will cheat. (To be honest, in theory, he is almost certainly correct.) But then in practice he sneakily assumes, without coming out and saying it but in the structure of his column, that only Clinton cheats. Logically that’s a complete disconnect;** in accordance with his theory BOTH sides should be fixing polls and elections. ** And you cannot really construct any sort of coherent, fact-based argument why the Democratic Party would be more capable of this than the Republican Party.

  5. That’s not even getting into how goddamn hard it practically is to fix elections. I don’t think Adams is fully aware of the fact that a Presidential election is actually 51 separate elections, every one run different from the last by totally different people.

At least one realtor is ready no matter what happens: http://www.wkyc.com/img/resize/content.wkyc.com/photo/2016/06/28/Billboard_1467166511956_3537681_ver1.0.jpg?preset=534-401