Maybe Clinton told Donna Brazile she would run again and Donna doesn’t want an 8 year Trump presidency to feed the ego of a horrible candidate.
If we knew then what we know now about Hillary’s corruption we might not have nominated Hillary.
They’re the ones that get to apply the rules and determine where money is spent by the party.
Right. Because the Clintons are not opportunists.
Yeah, and until the “Ready for Hillary” crowd can accept how horrible Hillary was as a candidate, we can never move forward. Sweeping everything under the rug by trying to make all criticism seem like Benghazi does nothing to further the discussion. Nothing, it is just the ready for Hillary crowd waving us away and saying “we STILL own the DNC, go away”
Yes, but that’s not why Hillary got the nomination.
She would have had plenty of money anyway. And she would have won under any “rules.”
I’m sick of Hillary supporters defending her. I’m sad she lost to Trump… but screw her.
I hate her, and I don’t say “hate” lightly.
Well, I pretty much agree with Procrustus and I’m only a Hillary supporter in the sense that I “supported” her over Trump.
You can agree with him. I don’t know if I do. But I don’t fault you for that.
I’m just sick of all the excuses.
Screw her. I hope she goes away in shame.
Why not write a ‘tell-all’ book? There’s no downside to scandalously outlining everyone else’s sleazy culpability while simultaneously downplaying your own (for prosperity). If you publish while the public’s memories are fresh and write a half-compelling narrative, you might even cash in.
I think Donna Brazile is politically savvy enough to know her influence in the DNC is dead, and media/business savvy enough to know how to sell a story.
I guess the question now is the impact this will have on progressives and the Democratic party. If Brazile, Clinton, Obama, Perez, Sanders, and others drag this out and force factions to pick sides, they’ll succeed in tearing the Democratic party apart. That would also mean that the fascist element in the Republican party will stand an excellent chance at winning in 2018 and ending American democracy once and for all. It was bad enough that the various factions started warring with each other and allowed Trump to win in 2016. If it happens again, the consequences will last for decades and might even be permanent.
This seem like a lot of Inside the Beltway crap to me. I doubt most Americans pay much attention to this, so I doubt this is going to tear the Democrats apart. What’s more important is who are the new folks presenting themselves as the new face of the party.
With super-delegates, it’s pretty hard to exaggerate the influence of the DNC over the voters.
Pardon me, but I do believe this makes no sense whatsoever.
Why exactly is she “owed” the party nomination, when she got her ass handed to her in 2008? Isn’t that all the more reason to deny her the nomination for 2016? She demonstrated that she’s not a strong candidate. The DNC should have had their heads examined for ever considering her as a presidential candidate again after that defeat.
This isn’t about most Americans though. It is about the Democratic Party. This controversy is about to blow-up. If the controversy is currently “inside the beltway” it’s about to trickle down to local level Democratic Party politics across the country very quickly.
Super delegates can change their minds right up to the convention vote - they’re not committed. Hillary found that out in 2008 when super delegates began switching teams after Obama started winning primaries and making her machine look vincible. The people who harp on about super delegates are forgetting that basic history. During the primaries, I pointed out that Bernie Sanders was probably one or two more big victories away from possibly leading the DNC to a brokered convention, which actually could have resulted in a Bernie victory - or at minimum consensus that Hillary is too vulnerable to support as a general candidate. But the closest he got to a major victory was in Michigan, which turned out to be an important bellwether in the end. But even so, it doesn’t suggest Bernie Sanders would have been necessarily stronger.
Everyone knew that Hillary, to some degree, had rigged the Democratic party just like she tried to rig it in 2008. In any case, it’s still possible for voters to un-rig it. The real heartburn for Democrats and progressives is that Hillary Clinton lost, and she wasted enormous amounts of resources in the process. Worse, she left progressives without a strong party or set of causes to rally behind. She devastated not only the Democratic party but the progressive causes. I supported Hillary but I’m not blind to the very real damage she caused. She needs to get out of the public eye. If she wants to support progressives behind the scenes, that’s fine. But the days of her being influential and relevant are way over, and yet she keeps on trying to raise her profile, which only reminds everyone - left, right, center - why they disliked her so much in the first place. She’s one of the least self-aware candidates I can recall in a long time.
Yeah, that caught my attention, too. To some degree I get it. She feels like she pulled a lot of weight when Dems were more successful, and now gets booted out unceremoniously because of a situation she inherited.
We don’t know that much more now than before the nomination. And it wouldn’t have made any difference - almost literally anything would have been treated like Benghazi - “nothing to see here, move along, old news, didn’t happen, you’re only saying this because she’s a woman, vast right-wing conspiracy”, etc.
[ul][li]Bill used to be President, so he must know how to get elected[/li][li]He and Hillary had a hammerlock on the Democrats because he could raise funds like it was going out of style[/li][li]The deal was that Hillary would stick by Bill to keep him in office in return for her own Presidency[/li][li]Hillary made it into the Senate to get legislative experience[/li][li]Obama agreed to make her SoS to give her foreign policy experience[/li][li]Now it’s 2016 - “It’s Her Turn” so it is inevitable[/li][li]No one in the DNC is dumb enough to think that Bernie Sanders is gonna play in Peoria - he’s a socialist, for heaven’s sake[/li][li]Besides, “It’s Her Turn”[/li][li]The plan is working - all the polls say so[/li][li]November 2016[/li][li]Fix the blame. Hillary says it’s everybody else, everybody else says it’s Hillary[/ul]DBP is everybody else.[/li]
Regards,
Shodan
This is nonsense.
Look, we get it - Hillary ran a horrible campaign that led to a horrible outcome. But there’s nobody who voted for her during the primaries who wasn’t aware that she and Bill rigged the party in their favor. They tried to do this in 2008 but Obama un-rigged it. The question is, **why couldn’t Bernie Sanders do the same?
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The answer is simple: Barack Obama worked within the Democratic party. He attended its convention in 2004, gave an epic speech, got noticed, got celebrity buzz. Obama never tried to run as a progressive while simultaneously trashing the entire Democratic party as being a corrupt organ of the corporate class. If you want to, you know, represent an organization, that’s probably a good way to go about it, don’t you think? Bernie ran as anti-Democratic party insurgent, and he inevitably got treated like one. Why is that surprising? Why is it surprising that most voters who have probably been voting for the Democratic party for years didn’t take him seriously initially? It’s not surprising. I get that people don’t like HRC for many valid reasons, but that’s a completely separate issue.
This makes the most sense. Or she’s pissed off because she was expecting a lucrative position with the Clinton Foundation that isn’t materializing.
After the 2016 debacle it’s hard to imagine any plum consulting jobs for Brazile unless she does a mea culpa (or more precisely, a Hillary culpa). Plus there could be a book deal in it too.
Maybe this episode shows the HRC-for-President ship really is sinking. I still question whether the Dems will give the keys to the family car to Hillary just one more time, in hopes she won’t crash it into the wall again.