If Hillary ran against Trump again, you'd stay home? Please explain

Continuing the discussion from Manhattan Prosecutors file criminal charges for Trump re Stormy Daniels case - ongoing discussion here (Guilty on all 34 counts, May 30, 2024):

In the “Manhattan prosecutors” thread, this question:

Prompted this response:

I’d like @Happy_Lendervedder to explain what they meant by what seems to me a really stupid, flippant comment. Are you seriously saying that you couldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump and you’d not vote at all if those were your choices? That you think Hillary would be or would have been a worse president than Trump? WTF?

I’m curious about the <cough> thinking behind such a statement.

If it was a joke, then explain that, too. Please enlighten me either way.

I had the same reaction. Hillary would have been a very good president. Trump, unquestionably the worst in history.

Ain’t nothing wrong with Hillary, except Bill.

I’ve been told she had emails of some sort? Apparently, that’s disqualifying.

Also Bengayzi or Bengaza or Benghazi or something.
and Whitechapel, maybe she was Jackie the Ripper. Oh wait, I’m being told it was Whitewater.

Man, I didn’t like HRC very much but compared to Trump it was no contest in 2016. I voted for her without hesitation.

Not as bad as having a son who owns a laptop. Or so I’ve been told.

What the actual fuck is wrong with you Thelma Lou?

I cannot when fathom what a miserable person you must be in real life if you thought this op was an acceptable way to ask me to clarify a post I made.

If you want an actual answer from me, and to have an honest discussion of it, try again. I have no problem engaging with you but I’m not looking for a fucking fight over this shit

That was a perfectly comprehensible answer. Thanks.

Hillary called people a mean name.

Hillary ran a pizza palor where children were eaten by lizard people. Or something like that, I could never follow that one.

But what’s a couple or 34 fraud convictions compared to that (or whatever that is)? If thats so bad why aren’t people screaming “Lock Him Up!”?

So you’re just looking for a fight?

Frankly, I’m taken aback that my OP irritated you so much. Your flippant comment in the trial thread made me furious. I actually toned down my OP from what I originally wrote. I’m not looking for a fight, but I am wondering what made you “seem” to say that you’d abstain from voting if Hillary were on the ballot against trump. I put seem in quotation marks just now because that’s what the words said, but maybe you didn’t mean that. Maybe you were just being funny or something. But if you were serious, I’d like a serious answer. Do you really think Hillary would have made a worse president than trump?

You’ve seen me on this board for long enough to see that I don’t go looking for a fight.

Are you insane? In no way, shape or form is Hillary Clinton even remotely as corrupt and dangerous as Donald Trump. He is a malignant narcissist and a seditious traitor. She is not. The “false equivalency” that the extreme right got away with in 2016 still amazes me.

Agreed, I’ve never seen any such conduct from you.

The flippant comment, assuming that’s what it was, did land badly because of the serious danger this nation is in from another Trump Presidency.

But aside from that one person’s response, it’s fair to note that there are a lot of people being surprisingly casual about the possibility of more Trump. It seems that many believe the false comfort ‘if it hasn’t happened yet then it can’t happen.’

It seems reasonable to me, particularly in the Pit, to explore why some people seem to believe that this is no big deal—and this thread makes sense as a place to do that.

You’re taken aback that someone reacted aggressively to being Pitted?

That has me scratching my head a bit also.
But hard to ask in any other forum at the same time.

You forget the real concern leading up to the election.

She had given speeches. To bankers. Who paid her a lot of money.

Heavens to Betsy, can you just imagine if a pro-bank candidate won the election?!

Holy shit! I’m sure Trump would never promise bankers and especially not oil executives any sort of deals in exchange for their support.

ETA on the what the subject of this thread seems to be: Hilary Clinton was a fine candidate, well within the range of normal parameters. Maybe she didn’t campaign well, but she had a ton of actual experience and probably would have been an excellent president. Trump has always been a con artist and grifter.

I have to say his reaction was surprisingly aggressive. A real throwback to the old days.

Though, if he’s going to drop that particular turd into that particular pool, he should have the stones to back it up.

I’ll be honest, for me it’s the serenity prayer. I can’t change what’s going to happen with Trump. I’ll cast my vote, but NJ is about as solidly Dem as anyplace these days, it won’t really change anything.

I could be filled with impotent rage, but I doubt that will make my life any better.