Don't be proud of being a fucking bitch

I think that adultery, when combined with her prescription drug addiction, *does *impact her children’s well-being. Frankly, I wonder if her boyfriend isn’t her new source, maybe for “better” stuff, because her willful blindness seems to be that of in addict on a bender, and doesn’t really match a lot of what she’s posted before. Or she’s switched from drugs to sex, either way, she’s still acting like an addict. When someone is determined to self-destruct, there’s not a damn thing you can do to stop them, certainly not strangers on a message board. That’s not really for RSSchen, but everyone else, because I think we’re pissing into the wind here.

My mother only wanted to do what felt good, and made her happy. It got her a dead husband and 2 children who don’t speak to her. And lot of empty tequila bottles. She also ruined several marriages besides her own. On the other hand, she got all the assets, instead of just half, like she would have in a divorce. I hope it was worth it. (As an aside, for the love of God, please do not compare your current “friend’s” sexual prowess to your children’s father’s with your children. Thank you.)

Read for comprehension mouthbreather.

Where did I say she was or wasn’t anything? I suggested that she might have some issues that need to be addressed. There is behavior going on that’s a red flag for people who have addictions.

Froth at the mouth all you want but leave my fucking name out of it.

I read for comprehension you foaming retard. But what she seems to have gotten from your post is absolution. Why the fuck do you think she responded solely to yourself, but has ignored posts from multiple other posters who have equally valid points but instead of giving her an excuse to latch on to have tried to place the responsibility for her behaviour solely on her rather than her “issues”.

If you want your fucking name left out of it, you should have kept your fucking mouth shut.

Whoa girl! I don’t think you were being attacked there - I think that Sierra Indigo was pointing out RRSchen’s total hypocrisy in saying that she’s considering everything, but only responding to posts which are neutral (as yours was), as opposed to totally negative. FWIW - I agree with you, but I think all of RSSchen’s issues - addiction, drug abuse, infidelity are related to the same problem, be it narcissism, ASPD, or raging cuntitude.

Anyhow - I’m appalled that someone with young children could behave in such a way, and try to justify it. It’s sickening, actually.

RSSchen, your children are 3 and 6? This may sound counter-intuitive, but I think that fact argues for an immediate divorce, not against it. Let me explain.

I was 6 years old when my parents separated. The divorce was relatively easy on me because they went out of their way to make it so – they stayed in the same city, shared custody, never spoke ill of each other or fought in front of me, cooperated and collaborated on parenting, and remained friends (or, at least, remained friendly). If this wasn’t the case, my childhood would have been much more emotionally taxing, and I would no doubt be a very different person today.

If you tell your husband now that you’re miserable and that you have to move on, it’s likely you can a have a “good” divorce for your childrens’ sakes. OTOH, if you get caught cheating (which, again, is WAY more likely than you seem to think it is), or if you tell your husband in 2010 that you’ve been cuckolding him for years and now you want a divorce, your marriage will end very badly, and the kids will suffer. Please consider this.

RSSchen, my biggest problem here is that you seem to be hanging on to a husband for whom you have little feeling but affectionate contempt because he’s a meal ticket. And, because deep in your heart, you suspect that the High School Lover is not as invested in this as you are. As others have pointed out, having an affair on the side is a whole lot different from living with a person day to day - a lot of the ‘romance’ goes out of a relationship when the realities of everyday life come in to the picture.

My strong recommendation to you is to discuss your unhappiness (NOT your affair - why hurt him unnecessarily?) with you husband and attempt a trial separation for a period of six months or so, during which he will be absolutely free to date. Ideally, get your lover to join you, so that you can approximate what married life with him (and his kids) would be. But most importantly, get a job. You should never be stuck in a relationship because you are unable to support yourself. It will be much better for the kids to do this now than later - they are still very young, and less likely to blame themselves or feel threatened that they will be abandoned if they see right off the bat that they will continue to be cared for by both parents. If your lover refuses to do the same thing, that tells you something about how serious he is about the permanence of that relationship; while not definitive, a refusal would put strong questions in my mind as to the likelihood of his actually being willing to divorce his wife if push came to shove. Under NO conditions should you continue the affair during the trial situation if he is unwilling to go through a trial separation at the same time - that will tell you that he’s completely not ready to change his life. And make no mistake; there are lots and lots of men who enjoy the idea of ‘something on the side’ without having the faintest desire to leave their wives.

During the trial separation, you’ll get a clearer idea as to whether what you’re looking for is simply more excitement in your life, or if you are truly unhappy with your current husband. It will be hard on you both, but it’s what you need to do. Right now, despite the sense of utter euphoria you have based on this new relationship, you really don’t know what’s going on for you - is this solely the euphoria of having attracted a ‘new’ man (something most of us, no matter how happily married, miss from time to time), or is it a deep-seated discontent with your husband? The decision as to whether to divorce your husband and whether to marry the ‘new’ guy should be totally independent in your mind, and right now they clearly are not. Further, you have no REAL way of knowing whether or not marrying the lover is a real option; he’s said he will, but married men have been saying that to their girls on the side for centuries.

I don’t think it’s necessary to tell your husband about the affair; just the fact that you are seriously unhappy will be painful enough to him, assuming he is as in love with you as you believe him to be. But if you’re truly unhappy in your marriage, then it must be done.

Right now you have it all; a meal ticket and a hot lover on the side. That’s rather despicable, and I urge you to stop. The potential for doing harm to people about whom you at least care is very great - much greater than the harm of splitting from your husband before things blow up and while your children are young enough to accept it pretty readily, as long as they continue to see plenty of both of you. See VarlosZ’s post above.

I apologize if I misunderstood your post. I do understand what your saying and tried to word my post to her in such a way that it wouldn’t seem like I was offering an excuse but for her to take a look at why she might be doing what she’s doing. Sorry if I overreacted.

Glomfuster: please do not interpret my post as approval for violence. However, given the prevalence of domestic violence, this is a possible outcome and if RSSchen is realy reading every post, I felt compelled to at least state that this is a possibility.

Assume the 3-year plan works, and the husband learns not only that there is a lover and a premeditated step-by-step process that she was following, but also that the entire thing is spelled out on SDMB complete with insulting and belittling jargon about him while boasting self-important mommy skills. I don’t know the players here, but I am sure many others’ fuses have blown from far less.

Trial separation this ass. That’s still duplicitous, dishonest and evasive. Her husband has a right to know, if for no other reason than he needs to find out what kind of diseases this bitch might be giving him.

I’ve never understood long term affairs. I mean, I can certainly understand marrying someone and then falling out of love. I just don’t understand how someone could think “Here’s a lovely person that’s perfectly happy to cheat on their partner/help me cheat on mine; there’s a basis for a long term relationship!” How would you ever be able to trust them? How would they be able to trust you?

Then again, it seems like RSSchen was happy to marry someone she thinks is an idiot, so I suppose she doesn’t have to lower her standards that much. And to be fair to the poor guy, he can’t be the sharpest tool in the drawer. He did marry her. rim shot

Just for the record and because it is muddling what is already a train wreck, RSSchen’s lover is single.

I want to know where the 3 year old is when she’s having the affair. That’s too young for school and since she’s a stay at home mom, I assume she has the youngest child with her? The husband will find out a lot sooner than she thinks if the kid has seen anything at all.

From the original, locked thread:

This whole thing is apparently a whim, and she equates this situation and the discussion with a show. I do not think RSSchen is interfacing with reality at all at this point, and I think she needs more help than we can give her here (not that we’re particularly trying to help; we’re all just enjoying the drama, me included). Who reads eight pages of people insulting them without getting mad and striking back? Who sets themselves up for that? There is something dreadfully off about this whole situation that is making me very uncomfortable. Either RSSchen is having a psychotic break or something, or she’s playing us. Or she truly doesn’t see anything wrong with anything she’s done or is doing, and that’s just as scary.

I think this thread should be locked and forgotten, and RSSchen should be seeking the real life help she desperately needs.

And also for the record, this just started 3 weeks ago. From the OP, it appears that she hadn’t been in contact with him for 30 years prior to that.

Not that the timeline matters, but even teenagers know to date someone longer than 3 weeks before making life-changing decisions.

Be honest with yourself. If you were really sure of this man, you’d come clean with your husband now. Why wait? Why postpone your happiness? But you’re not sure, so you’ve come up with this three-year bullshit. You’re rationalizing everything, and none of it makes a lick of sense.

I’m with you. Either this is a masterful troll, or her cheese has slid off her cracker, so to speak.

She’s been here since 1999 (or something) - if she didn’t know how the original thread was going to go, she’s delusional.

Good question, although I doubt she’ll answer. What does one do with a 3 year old while your shagging your boy toy?

Oh! I know the answer to that one! It has a lot to do with my tendency to scold in the original post: I have a close friend who was the breadwinner, and her stay-at-home husband had an affair when he was responsible for watching their daughter. How do you have an affair without the kid seeing? Simple- he let a known pederast babysit for him! Its okay, he was haaaapy!

That’s what the ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese was invented for.

That’s all I have to say, everything I’m thinking about the OP has already been said, and much more eloquently.

Yeah, something doesn’t feel right here. When I first got into the thread, I agreed with Aeschines’ about how judgmental it felt. And so I was really trying to see RSSchen’s point of view.

But I just went back and looked at her posting history and went through about 10 pages from sometime in 2005 and then about 5 pages of more recent stuff. And there is no indication of anything like this. In 2005, she said her life was fantastic and in February 2006, she said that her marriage was good. So only a year later she’s willing to throw it out? That’s baffling.

I still don’t get all the judgmental stuff, unless of course, some of this kind of thing happened to you (generic you) in the past.

Her not getting mad doesn’t bother me because she was probably prepared for this, although I must say, being new and all, I was pretty floored by the reaction. This is only the second time I’ve seen something like this here.

I’m not judging this, I’m just :confused:

It seemed like an interesting set of threads to me. Many people with different viewpoints and feelings about marriage and fidelity had negative responses, although they had different reasons and responses. They impressed me with validity and good reasoning. Several posters were able to really step back and offer analytical and potentially helpful responses that included patterns of behavior and possible outcomes. I will admit I was not one of them. Scolding comes a little too easy to conures