Where’s Ozzie and Harriet when we need them? Ward and June Cleaver are you out there? Maybe even Howard and Marion Cunningham?
Welcome to 2016
It’s not an isolated case either. I’ve seen other news reports of dopers passed out in public.
This couple had their kid in the car seat.
I hope just maybe this will be a wake-up call for selfish parents with kids. Think of them before going to a bar or meeting up with a dealer. Man up and take the responsibility of raising your kids seriously. Your life has to change after having kids. You can’t just do what ever the hell you want anymore.
33 people passed out on the streets and hospitalized
At least he had his foot on the brake
Mom and dear old dad. Passed out together in the car. I’m glad the kid is too young to remember this day.
Where’s the evidence that this happens more often in 2016 than in the past (as long as alcohol as a drug is included) that it’s not just that there’s more reporting now?
I’m all for addressing problems, but I really don’t like the “it was better back then” implication…using fictional families. Fictional couples chosen for extremes, of course, but the “welcome to 2016” really bugs me. I’d have been so much more supportive of the post without it.
Drug use has been a problem for a long time. I never said it wasn’t.
Some of the newer drugs are worse than what we’ve seen in the past. I linked a story about K2 (synthetic marijuana) overdoses. Bath Salts have resulted in violent face eating incidents. Some of these new drugs are really bad.
No, no, no… There’s nothing wrong with doing drugs, it happens to everyone sooner or later, and it’s just an accident that no one could have forseen or avoided. I had my ignorance fought, and now I realise that it is wrong to judge drug users for their terrible choices and dangerous stupidity.
What’s up with the recreational outrage, aceplace? Yes, it’s pretty universally acknowledged that it’s wrong to get high in front of your kid, drive while intoxicated, especially if your kid is in the car, or cause your death while your child is watching. Somehow, I don’t think you’re going to convert any Dopers who were planning on doing any of the three things above. Maybe you should take your lecture down to the crack house on the corner - they might be a more appropriate audience.
And, for the record, how DARE Jane Mansfield be killed in her car while her children were in the back seat?
OK, so here’s the thing with that. No they shouldn’t be doing heroin. Yes, they should never even have tried it in the first place. I’m not arguing that.
But the driver told the police officer that he was trying to get the lady to the hospital. And the officer confirmed that she was turning blue. So, I totally get why, in his addled state (which, yes, he shouldn’t have been in) he bundled wife and child into the car and headed toward the hospital.
Clearly they got a dose of something that was not what they thought they were buying.
But I’ve sat staring at the phone wondering if I should drive myself, or if it would be a danger to others on the road. Because ambulances aren’t cheap, and that’s how we roll in the US of A. Take the ambulance you know you can’t pay for, and even when you get back on your feet, you’ll never be able to buy a house, because now you’ve got bad credit. (No, I wasn’t on heroin, I had food poisoning. Same decision though. I passed out in the parking lot at the hospital.)
And maybe they both would gladly have gone to rehab. Except that even if you have the money, it’s often several weeks that you have to wait, and may addicts are back on the merry-go-round by then. Very few people in the US get into rehab while they are really “gung-ho” and motivated to do it.
A good deal of the credit for this nightmare falls upon our broken medical system. We need to go back now and cut some of the blockages out of the HRA so that people get care when they need it.
We are losing way too many people to drug addiction. And for every one who dies, there are countless others suffering because of them. It’s got to be addressed as the health-care crisis it is.
That’s all this user posts, it’s his shtick - ‘I read this thing on the web and w/o checking to see the veracity or complexity of it I got real mad and here it is and the morally superior reasons why I’m right to be so mad!’. He enjoys a chance to outrage or shame others. Like if clickbait was a person.
I’d wonder if his temporal lobe is drying up if it hadn’t always been what he’s posted from the beginning of his tenure.
Seriously though… WTF is wrong with these assholes? They couldn’t wait until they got home, or couldn’t manage to stagger who got high so their kid would be taken care of?
My thought is that if you act like that, you deserve to get tossed into prison and have your child taken away from you for gross negligence. Not so much the drug use per-se, although that is horrible, but not having the minimal brain power or responsibility to make sure you don’t harm the kid while you do it.
Boy, that shows a complete lack of understanding of what addiction is.
No, a person’s life really doesn’t have to change after they have kids. It should change, and we would like them to put the kids first, but selfish assholes that reproduce can continue to be selfish assholes. The universe doesn’t actually force people to change once they spawn.
Drug-addled fuck-ups are drug-addled fuck-ups whether or not they have kids. Unfortunately, it’s a feature of addiction that addicts will often put the addiction before everything else - friends, offspring, their own safety and self-interest…
People who use mind-altering substances but aren’t addicts will put their kids first. Actual addicts can’t be relied up on to do this. Once in awhile you’ll find one that can, for a brief time, put someone or something else first but until they are in recovery they will go back to the bottle/pill/needle/whatever over and over again. That’s what addiction is - putting the drug(s) first.
Appealing to parental responsibility isn’t going to do jack for those people. You have to make some inroads against the addiction first. Good luck with that, it’s a hard disorder to treat.
I think we shouldn’t be so hard on ace. His underlying point seems to be that if heroin addicts could see pictures of other heroin addicts in the newspaper (as opposed to looking at their heroin addict friends in real life), then heroin addicts will stop doing heroin because then they will know what heroin addicts look like because of the newspaper.
Apparently seeing heroin addicts in their everyday lives does not dissuade addicts from using heroin. It has got to be in the newspaper. Maybe TV will work too.