Doper Diplomacy - Fall and Winter 2002

Realpolitik is free as a bird and comes, as stated “With absolutely no warrenty”. It’s simplicity itself to use. Get it here. I’ll send the game file.

Nate, when do you want the delay until? I’ll trade you for a delay in 1019, I was busy all day today and will be gone for something like 15 hours tomorrow.

Deal. Two days?

OK, I’ll see what I can get done tonite, JC, can you set me up with the server access? I see WD already has a folder, I’ll just stick it there.

Question for Nate:

OK, I’m not familiar with the whole Cat23 thing, but I’ve looked at your page and you obviously GM alot of Cat23 games. whats the deal? How does the naming/numbering scheme work?

What about our games, they seem to follow the numbering scheme, but if we’re not Cat23, why is that?

How you become a Cat23 game is, the GM goes to their website (see the link at the top of the page) and applies for a number, which automatically gets assigned. And after that, he’s expected to report the results to their listserv as the game progresses.

There doesn’t seem to be a requirement that one open up the opportunity to join the game to the Cat23 universe.

Dip 1040 is a Cat23 game.

So is 1046. Omni, do you still want the RP file since WL sent you all of the jpegs?

OK, coming in cold, so here goes.

There appear to be three contenders, Russia, France and Turkey. It suits Russia and France to deal with England, Russia and Turkey to deal with Austria and France and Turkey to deal with Italy. The other three powers cannot help each other enough to slow down a three-power juggernaut but they can affect the outcome by alliances with the one or other big powers. Italy-Turkey is an obvious possibility.

England: The F (Edinburgh was the wrong build, unless you’ve come to an arrangement with France. Given France’s move to the Channel, I don’t think you have. I think a bold French move (see below) could scupper you. You should get something from Scandinavia, but it will delay rather than prevent the inevitable.

**France **: Despite the Italian army in Marseilles, you are still very strongly placed. Block the Italians and finish off the English. Russia will be desperate for help there. Then go for Italy. Hopefully, Russia and Turkey will have fallen out by then, leaving you untroubled to stomp Italy, which should leave you to complete your set of 17 supply centres from Russia’s German holdings. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. My moves would be: A (Belgium) to Wales, F (Picardy) to Belgium supported by A (Ruhr), F (Liverpool) to Clyde. Aggressive but should speed up the destruction of England.

**Germany **: :::Knock, knock::: Hello? Hello? Hello? Is there anybody in there? (Cue Pink Floyd, Comfortably Numb)

**Italy **: Make friends with Turkey ASAP to keep them of your back, for now. I think the French can block you forever while dealing with England, so you need some help from somewhere. England is your best bet. A good, aggressive move next turn is A (Marseilles) to Burgundy using F (GoL) to block the French out of Marseilles. But I think France will build in Paris and drive you back, eventually. Little to do except hang in there.

**Austria **: Grim times ahead. I think you can wave goodbye to Trieste and Budapest as well as Rumania this year. So, remember the famous fighting words of Uncle Klemens – “Surrender” and “Next!”

**Russia **: Fighting on two fronts with no mutual support. You should get a lot out of Austria (Budapest as well as Rumania), even without Turkish help, but may lose ground against England. You don’t have enough units in the north should England and France stop fighting; fortunately that’s a tad unlikely. You need France to help you out and are vulnerable to a Turkish stab. France is the better long term bet – it’s harder for you to stab each other. Move A (Ukraine) to or build in Sevastopol unless you absolutely trust the Turks. And would you trust a man who wears silk slippers – out of doors?

**Turkey **: You are currently the strongest but only marginally. France is coming up fast on the outside. Your “Make the Balkans Muslim” campaign is effectively unopposed by Austria, with Trieste falling next. (A (Serbia) to Trieste is most aggressive, but leaves you weakish in the Balkans, F (Albania) is safer but puts the wrong unit type into Trieste.) You are also well placed to pick up something against Italy as well. Keep Russia sweet, fill your boots in Austria and maybe pick something up against Italy. Of the three major powers only you have one opponent. You can pick your next. Russia is open to stabbing, but you’ll have to be quick, the next Russian build should be in Sevastopol to block you. I’d convoy A (Constantinople) straight in to make a good stab. My seriously aggressive moves would be: A (Constantinople) to Sevastopol, A (Bulgaria) to Rumania supported by A (Serbia), F (Albania) to Trieste supported by F (Adriatic). Two out of three as a minimum.

It seems that silk slippers are the footwear of the moment.


Go alien – whose day job is to analyse businesses, not strategy. :smiley:

Omni - I recommend having Dave send you the RealPolitik file. It’s easy to use, and to go back and forth through the game history. It’s got all the maps after every turn, including before and after retreats. It’s got all the move orders and results for each move. That way, you don’t have to worry about where all the files are, or in what form - it’s all there, wrapped up in a bow. The maps are in Bitmap format, so if you want to upload them, you’ll want to convert to Jpeg, but that’s no speedbump.

The RealPolitik software (see Dave’s link) didn’t take me terribly long to download over a modem connection; it’s not a huge program.

Yeah, send me the Realpolitick file.

Dave, would you send me the RP file too? Thank you.

Go alien: you hush. Currently the strongest? Count those SCs, please! I’ve only got 6 to France’s 8 and Russia’s 7. France took 3 in 1901! And I’m wedged down here in the corner. At least I’ve got the Black now, though.

Just repeat after me, and remember this mantra: France is the board leader and must be stopped.

Game Leader!! Game Leader! Get Him!!!

Hey Abe, wanna dogpile on Turkey?

PS This thread is getting farking enormous.

Yeah, I was just thinking that same thing, Shibb.

About the thread getting big, of course. Nobody should pay any attention to Turkey. Turkey isn’t doing anything at all. You are getting very sleepy…

Map’s at the first link below. We need a retreat from Austria.

Cat23 Diplomacy Game Free State 10(W-)40 page.

Cat23 and diplom.org pages.

And the official Dip rules, in PDF format.

Believe me, ShibbO, that’s exactly what I’m trying to do.

Oh. Did you mean in Dip 1046? My bad.

In Dip 1040, the Austrian A Armenia has retreated to Sevastopol. That completes Spring 1905; map will be updated tonight.

Anyone want to see a great opening?

Take a look at what Germany pulled off in Dip ‘Snappy’ 1053.

http://www.wooleysark.com/dip/1053

And all in one year!

Stellar start for the Kaiser. He has managed to hamstring France, which is all well and good. But he pissed off Russia, and for what? Hopefully for him England will join in dismantling France, rather than ally with Russia to knock down Germany. He also has his diplomacy work cut out for him in the south, as he needs for Turkey and Austria to pressure Russia so it can’t retaliate.

I reviewed Dip 1035-Labor Law. Sadly, the replacement Archduke has not fared too well, and is back to 3 centers. I always like to see an offbeat move, even if it doesn’t work.

Abe, what happened to your freaking game? Did Kathy take away your computer privileges so you would actually work or spend time with your family? The horror.

Times do look grim for Austria, so I need something to to do.

Well, Abe, I’m sorry to see that your Armenian Army retreated to Sevastopol instead of OTB, but I guess one can’t have everything. Welcome to Constantinople by the way. Please remove your shoes as we’ve just waxed all the floors.