bufftabby. Moves a weak vote to someone who is trailing terribly. Had some reasons but none the less suspicious. Motivation get the hell off of a one off vote to someone much more lychable.
Koldanar. Had a vote but who the who cares. Motivation - Die standing up?
RyJaye. Crappy rear end vote. Moves himself from a Thing Fish lynch to an anyrose safe bet/move. Motivation (now - scared detective).
The Unkempt One. Bad late day move. Motivation: Not town in the least. Give Think Fish a 50/50.
Can you please elaborate on how my vote changing is “Not town in the least”? If you are looking at motivation, then surely you can see how Thing Fish redeemed himself with his later posts in Day one and showed himself to be much less scummy? What would my motivation be to keep a vote on someone who I no longer thought was town? Is it a better strategy to keep your vote on a bandwagon to avoid drawing suspicion to yourself than it is to vote for someone who is acting scummier?
I know that this is my first game and I am expected to be a little dumb, but come on! Do you really think that I would switch my vote to another person and risk exposing myself as scum just to jump off a bandwagon that already had 7 people on it to another bandwagon that was quickly gaining momentum? All it took was for Thing Fish to NOT vote against himself to force a tie…I don’t have a PhD in math, but I do have a pretty basic grasp of numbers. Is it more likely that I really thought that Thing Fish was town, and that anyrose was acting scummier than anyone else by the time that I placed my vote? I think that it is pretty clear exactly what my thought process was through this whole situation, and hopefully it will be enough to save me from the hangman’s noose!
*corrected my name
My motivation was simply because I felt Thing Fish was not scum or correction less likely to be scum than anyrose. Incorrect in that anyrose was scum, still not shown whether my gut was correct on Thing Fish.
I think you did all right except for the last minute vote change. That really raised a lot of eyebrows. If you are what you say you are then what the hey we’re only down 0 - 2 going home. We can still recover.
Get another investigation in and blow this puppy wide open (don’t mean that I might not choose to vote for you, though). LOL
I don’t want to steal this quote because it is what I keep close to hand at all times playing this game. Play your friggin’ game. fluiddruid made a comment in Simpletown kind of towards me along the line of keeping the faith and trudging on (I will of course defer to her recollection). Everyone in this game is as smart as everyone else. I got chastised as being “bossy” earlier on but that was not my intent. Ok I am totally giving it up to a “newb”. What can I do to make this more participatory?
If this just ends up Blam against fluid what in the world have we accomplished.
Ok and I’m back. I’m also caught up and did I miss a lot. After all that reading Ive come up with an idea. The scummiest actions from day one are RyJae and The Unkempt One based on starting the Thing Fish wagon and then jumping off at the last minute to lynch town. Inspite of a great post by me about her motivation. ( got to love shameless self promotion ) Now RyJae has claimed dectetive and I don’t believe him. He claims it is because he is about to get lynched but The Unkempt One has about the same number of votes and as yesterday proved we aren’t above changing our mind at the last second and this is no where near the last second. So I’m left with a conundrum and two possible scum. I don’t think we have enough information to decide which is scum with out knowing if Thing Fish is scum or town. If he is scum the we can look at the motivation for swiching of scum at the last minute to vote for town. If Thing is town then we can look for who was trying to stir up at town vs town fight. But without that knowledge there is no way to determine motivation. So doing what I’m sure will be unpopular.
Vote Thing Fish
By the way posting from my phone sorry for the errors.
I don’t mean to imply that anyone is smarter than anyone else. I guess that I am just saying that some people are accusing me of being scum based up a last minute vote change that would be pretty dumb to make if I were scum.
I am just trying to say that there may be more than one reason for my last minute vote change, and perhaps it would serve the town better to apply occam’s razor to this discussion and really think about it. Would I be most likely to out myself as scum so early in the game, or would I be more likely to change my vote based upon who I really thought was scum?
I didn’t want my statement to garner any lenience for me as a “newb” but rather to show that even though this is my first game, I’m not going to make a boneheaded decision and risk outing myself as scum so early on.
Fuck: maybe I am not coming across correctly. You are as smart as the Blam’s of the world. Why not stand up to him. I think he has been wrong more often than right - I’ll start my analysis on that tomorrow or the next day. All I am saying is that we are communally stronger than any individual. That is the power of the town. If we keep that at the forefreighnt we should be ok.
First of all, I want to point out that saying “someone who turns out to be the detective” sounds like you may actually have good reason to believe he’s telling the truth (IE, you’re scum and you know he’s town). Not a whole lot, but it is a point.
Even if both bufftabby and RyJae are town, you following through with their behavior doesn’t qualify as “collaborating” nor does it mean that because they’re town so must you be.
Your vote is suspect because of the length of your vote staying on Thing Fish beforehand, the bad timing of the unvote, and the lack of reasoning to support such anti-town behavior.
It is entirely possible that all three of you are townies; however, it also remains that you three did the most anti-town acts, therefore it follows that it’s likely that one of you is scum and at least worth taking a closer look at.
And, thus, I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, so here’s your chance to better explain yourself. The Thing Fish case from Yesterday is well established, so I won’t ask you to reitterate why you were suspicious of him. But what I will ask is for you to reitterate what made you less suspicious of him and what made you more suspicous of anyrose.
FOA, I was making an assessment of your play in the last game, that you did a few “me too” votes and that you did a lot of snuggling. Also, you were given a lot of crap for both and you were ultimately town. This was to establish a baseline. Do you disagree with this?
That said, you specifically say with regard to The Unkempt One when voting for them “it seems pretty scummy to piggyback so completely on my vote”. Considering that you got crap for “me too” votes in the previous game and you were town, it seems odd to now be classifying similar votes by someone else as scummy.
I didn’t say it was a problem, said I don’t know what it means. What I was doing was pointing out that I’ve noticed a significant shift in your play style. It could be, as you say, that you’re more confident and experienced and that’s affected your play style. It could mean you have a very different role, which could include a scum or a power role. The point is, I noticed a difference in style, it may be worthless, but it’s a data point nonetheless, so I’m gonna point it out.
I was gonna write something longer, but I changed my mind. So I’ll just say, Doctor, play it how you see it, you’re under no obligation to follow any advice provided by anyone, including my advice to play it out you see it.
The suspicion game is delicate and is probably more likely than not to blow up in your face. On the plus side, if you are telling the truth and the doctor does believe you, you get however many Nights it takes them to find the Doctor to continue doing investigations.
Also, if you are the detective, you did make a wise decision not to investigate Thing Fish because he was under high suspicion. Remember, your primary job is to confirm townies, not to find scum, and since you’re out, just try to make sure you pick one the scum won’t kill.
Okay, you mention again that he looked well scummy, and you even say “surely you can see [it]”. We can’t, if it was THAT obvious, everyone would have unvoted him and no one would still be suspicious of him. That is not the case, you need to explain it better. You’re the one making the claim that he’s not scummy, so you need to substantiate it.
It’s also possible that you saw an opportunity to either get off a townie wagon or save a fellow scum all the while using other people reasoning so they they more of the blame. You keep saying it’s obvious that your actions are town, but that’s only given that we believe you were town when you made them. It’s a circular argument. If you’re telling the truth, that’s not a luxury the rest of us have.
Look at it this way, if you’re telling the truth, you already know why you did what you did as a townie. Now, imagine you’re scum and that Thing Fish is also scum. Why would you have done that? Now imagine you’re scum and that Thing Fish is town. Why would you have done that? Can you not see that there’s compelling motivation for both of those scenarios as well?
I will consider moving the Night Deadline/Day “lickoff” to Saturday, 5PM. If anyone cares about it either way, let me know by Private Message or Email.
Well its nice to know that I don’t have to eat liver, 'cause that stuff is nasty. But I’m curious how I got this vote when I explained my situation and more importantly after I started posting. Dotchan hasn’t voted and I get the lurked vote? Is this like day1 where I was the most active of the lurkers or did you just not like my strategy but chose not to comment. Of course there is a third option becuase I only posted 10min before you maybe it took longer then that to compose such an elegant vote. By they way since its been ignored any comments on my Thing Fish vote?
