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**RyJae - 1 ** (peekercpa)
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Everyone else
Trying to catch up and respond linearly.
I am not totally convinced that it is 4 -4. Could be 5 - 3 with a godfather and role blocker of some sort. Don’t know but it is a possibility. If it’s the latter then we still have a chance if that role blocker will cover my butt for one more night.
'Course if one of my townies is in fact scum then we would be in a world of hurt - but not fatal. And so far I just can’t see that my confirmeds are scum. I can’t build a case even looking back in rertrospect. Just can’t see it.
More in a moment.
Absofuckinglutely.
CoG888: Is this Kosher.
I’ll even go first. Name the time and place. You just gotta promise to follow up with yours in a timely manner.
Deal?
Dependent on our Mod’s ruling, of course.
Well since apparently you are the mail man that fathered them you can keep 'em.
Of course it’s okay to summarize, it’s not okay to quote. I’m just curious what your scum mind came up actually not much to do with the actual game.
This doesn’t make sense, if my math in post 820 was correct. If it was 11-3 to start with, with the three power roles we know we have (assuming that one of you guys is really a Detective) plus presumably a Godfather, that already puts Town at a significant advantage. There is no reason to think there would also be another pro-Town power role thrown in the mix.
I’ll make it easy on ya, pushing the limits I guess but you know want to help you out. This is almost the PM I got since I cannot quote it I had to make do with some help with the redneck machine 
Doperville Mafia Role
RyJae
Deteckive/Cop
Yer a Townie an’ yer th’ Doperville Deteckive. Yo’ appreenticed unner Cecil Adams an’ yo’ share his keen eye fo’ th’ truth. Upon hearin’ of his death, yo’ vowed t’avenge him by discovahin’ th’ evil-doers. Etch night, yo’ kin secretly investigate one other member of th’ town, as enny fool kin plainly see. Yo’ will discovah their alignment, eifer Townie, o’ Mafia.
Yo’ also haf th’ power t’vote fo’ a lynchin’. Be careful wif this hyar power. Once th’ daidline is retched, th’ player wif the dawgoned-est votes will be killed, cuss it all t’ tarnation.
Th’ Night Phase will last fo’ about 72 hours. Th’ fust name yo’ submit t’th’ moderato’ will be th’ investigated targit. Eff’n th’ daidline is retched wifout submittin’ a name, no one will be investigated, cuss it all t’ tarnation.
Yo’ may not communicut wif th’ varmint yer investigatin’, o’ enny other member of th’ game durin’ th’ Night Phase. Yo’ may not discuss th’ game outside of th’ Game Thread, cuss it all t’ tarnation.
Yo’ will win when yo’ an’ t’other townies haf killed ev’ry member of th’ Mafia. Yo’ win as a team, even eff’n yer daid.
Please reply t’confirm yer role.
How is this exchange of alleged paraphrased PMs possibly going to help any of the rest of us make up our minds about anything? Like we can’t all easily imagine roughly what a Detective PM would read like? I wish you guys would try to be more helpful and not just treat the rest of us like idiots for not buying your claims unconditionally, but this has been going on for a day and a half now so I’m not optimistic.
On preview: OK, I must admit that was actually pretty funny. Cuss it all.
And another thing, peeker: why do you keep appealing to this hypothetical roleblocker to “cover my butt for one more night”? If there was a roleblocker successfully covering your butt, we would have had a night with no Mafia kill (at least as I understand how this works). So since someone has died every night, it seems clear that the scum have never targeted you yet.
No it’s clear he is scum. But that’s facts, and you’re still looking for speculation. And you had the gall to “prove” myself to you when you already either now he is scum, or believe him already.
If you’re town, and sadly our only for sure town is busy, you would read through my posts from yesterDay and see peeker and cck working together. If you’re scum well good game you guys are doing a number on my poor townies.
Nothing more for me to do or say, I explained why I investigated fluid (because peeker could’ve said fluid was town to hide a scum with a town (BlaM) I explained everything else anyone questioned, and I gave town two for sure scum to fry. My role here is done.
What I honestly do not understand even from those that don’t believe me but yet doubt cck’s alignment not to lynch him because at least then one scum is down, and while it won’t confirm me it would at least help us. Unless you think I was trying to get cck killed an he was town which would really make no sense for a scum to do in my situation when I exposed him. But those are just thoughts I have since no one else has anything.
Well, I must say I kind of hope** fluiddruid** stays with us (and congratulations on living to see Day Four, by the way! Sorry it’s not much of a view, but at least it’s a new personal record!), but if she feels she can’t be around enough to help us out, so be it.
Since we have less than 48 hours before we have to kill someone, I am going to
COLOR=Blue]vote dotchan[/COLOR]
basically, as I said above, for being the lurkiest of the three prime suspects, although none of them has really pinged me in a major way. Although it’s obviously not her fault, the fact that the player she replaced was also super-lurky makes me suspicious. Although it’s not really in the spirit of the game, hanging around until you get replaced seems like it’s actually a good strategy for scum, since it allows them to bring in a new player who has no record to be judged on and can’t really be blamed for the lurkiness of the predecessor. This happened in Simpletown, though I’m not sure that it was a deliberate strategy there. I will continue to read and watch carefully, and as I said I still think it would be good for all of us to follow fluiddruid’s lead if possible. But since I don’t trust any of you except fluid, I think that most likely I will be crossing my fingers and sticking with this vote unless fluid recommends otherwise.
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vote dotchan
I’m not sure why it wouldn’t make sense for scum to be trying to get a Townie killed, it is kinda what they do (and very effectively thus far). On the other hand, I can also easily see you (if you are scum), trying to sacrifice a fellow scum to impress us with your Detectiveness. So I don’t think I can really make much of a guess at all about cck based on the fact that you say he is scum. On the other hand, the dot/Hoopy/buffy group have an excellent chance of being scum no matter which Detective is legit, so I think they are a better choice for now.
Ah, crap. Again not edited, this time to bold my responses within the quote field.
I’m not sure why it wouldn’t make sense for scum to be trying to get a Townie killed, it is kinda what they do (and very effectively thus far). On the other hand, I can also easily see you (if you are scum), trying to sacrifice a fellow scum to impress us with your Detectiveness. So I don’t think I can really make much of a guess at all about cck based on the fact that you say he is scum. On the other hand, the dot/Hoopy/buffy group have an excellent chance of being scum no matter which Detective is legit, so I think they are a better choice for now.
Not true. As one of three Roleblockers (all pro-town) in Batman, there were only two nights the blockers stopped the night kill (another one was stopped by storyteller’s self-protection as doc), and both blocks were from me. And one was a mass block of the everybody’s night actions. So a role-blocker still has to guess correctly, and when scum are rotating the kill, it’s not easy. Add to it the fact that not all scum could kill in that one, and BlaM didn’t even have a night power (his only power was retalitory kill upon lynch), and there’s no guarantee that a roleblocker will stop a kill. So just because kills are successful, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a role-blocker.
Now, that being said, it does seem kind of odd that peekercpa mentions the role, since I can’t see it even existing for various reasons. The game seems fairly balanced with all town power roles exposed already, the town role-blocker is rarely useful in a game without multiple killing roles (a one-shot vig is unlikely to be stopped by a blocker but serial killers are nice to have blockers for), when you have a smaller number of players, the blocker will have a considerably more detrimental effect on town should he hit a town power role. (It’s one thing I disagree with JSexton’s formula on. The less players, the more harmful to town the blocker can be, regardless of which side he’s on. So the blocker’s are more of a sliding scale, IMO.)
So we can’t completely rule out the existence of a pro-town blocker by evidence, but the likelihood is extremely remote.
Now think about this for a while, and think about his post.
He’s acting like someone has been role blocking him, nice to know since he has got “reads” every freaking night. Innocent mistake or scum inattention?
Right… but I was reacting to peeker’s use of the phrase “for one more night”, which seemed (to me…could be wrong) to imply that he believed this roleblocker had already saved him at least once. And if that were the case, there would have been a night when there was no night kill.
OK, folks, I know I suggested we should all vote en bloc with fluid, but there are now less than 36 hours to go and 6 of the 8 of us have no votes on record. I will encourage everyone to change their vote if/when fluid shows up, but I don’t think it is helpful to Town for nobody to be putting their current thought processes on the record for future analysis. So please, VOTE!
Time to throw a little caution to the wind and vote peekercpa, for the reasons I outlined earlier.
And now, time to mash F5 for the rest of the Day and hoping to God I voted right this time.