Drop Biden from the ticket

Yes, until then, he’s just Biden his time.

Psssst :smiley:

Maybe more of an indictment of our system than Biden himself, but I never quite got over his “the senator from MBNA” issues. He sponsored a very consumer-unfriendly bill for MBNA, who has been perhaps his biggest single campaign contributor over the years.
Also, he lies more than he has to. And gets caught blatently plagarizing. I’m not sure he’d be electable. I loved his participation in the Clarence Thomas/Anita Hill proceedings, though.

Biden drop out? Forget that.

It’s not too late for Obama to withdraw!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57328558-503544/ex-bill-clinton-pollster-urges-obama-to-give-up-wh-bid-for-hillary/
Having won the election by a decisive electoral margin, he can quit now while he’s still on top! Who’s with me?

Anyone? Bueller?

Y’know, every time I think about Joe Biden’s so-called “gaffes”, it seems to me that he was just being blunt, as opposed to the recent spate of gaffes by Republicans which go off the deep end that abortion is worse than rape, or something.

I cheerfully admit my potential bias in this - I just can’t offhand think of anything Biden ever said that got me thinking God, you’re a fucking moron, and I’ve felt that sentiment numerous times over the past year at other American pols.

Which was often just Republicans bluntly or tactlessly describing their real views.

Not even that time he talked about Franklin Delano Roosevelt going on TV during the Great Depression?

That’d be cool, if their real views didn’t turn out to be so moronic.

I’d like to note that I’m talking about a small and specific handful of Republicans.

Heh, forgot about that one. I find it more comical than anything else. Now I’m curious what, if anything, he said when he got called on it, so I’ll look into it.

Well, yeah. My point is that those gaffes and some of Biden’s gaffes could fall into that “blunt” heading.

Because then Boehner would no longer be up against Pelosi, but against big Harry things and old Inouye.

It’s a terrible idea. It’s pointless and would be politically damaging to Obama when he needs every ounce of political capital he can muster to try and get his second term agenda passed through what is a pretty hostile political environment and a shaky economy, plus potential meltdowns overseas and a war he inherited and is still disentangling us from. The next term will take care of itself…if Obama actually manages to get through the next terms with the US in better shape than it’s been, and if his health care reform works out as well as folks on this board think it will, then the Dems will still be in good odor for the next presidential election, and he won’t need to groom a replacement…someone will run on continuing or even expanding his legacy. If not, then it will be like Bush II’s second term at the end…everyone will be trying to disassociate themselves from anything remotely connected to him.

Ignoring the OP for a moment, and just thinking about Biden’s prospects for 2016:

  1. He’s gonna run. He’s pretty much said so.

  2. He’s run for President before, and frankly he’s not that good a candidate.

  3. The competition’s gonna be intense in 2016. Hillary? Quite possibly. Martin O’Malley (MD Gov)? Almost certainly. And I’m sure some other top names are prepping for 2016, because the alternative might well be to have to wait until 2024, by which time a whole new generation of contenders will come along.

  4. I really don’t think Biden stacks up well against the other top 2016 contenders. Even if Hillary doesn’t run, I don’t think Biden can beat O’Malley, who definitely will run.

Still, I can’t help but wonder: imagine Obama’s taking a victory lap in '16, having just now saved the country in general and the economy in particular – and wherever there are cheering crowds, the big guy keeps telling everyone to get out and vote for Joe Biden. What happens then?

Ain’t happening. His former SoS is running, and he’s out there telling people to vote against her? Naw. Time enough to hype Biden if he wins the nomination, which also is not happening.

Sitting presidents usually don’t endorse an individual candidate until after the primaries- they just say generally supportive and positive things about all of their party’s candidates, IIRC.

It’s a terrible idea. On top of all the other reasons outlined in this thread, section 2 of the 25th amendment states this:

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Nobody. NOBODY. Is becoming VP given this requirement. It will remain open throughout the rest of Obama’s term.