DWB Response to Bombing is Not Helpful

Reading some articles about the attack on the Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz, I am struck not just by the vehement emotion involved but also the bafflingly unhelpful responses to what is very clearly a tragedy. Their first impulse is to savagely attack the US and try to inflame public sentiment, rather than maintain any kind of objectivity or think about what they are really trying to accomplish.

I saw an article in the paper this morning (No Combatants in Hospital Hit by US, Gregg Zoroya, USA Today, 6 NOV) in which MSF Director Christopher Stokes claims: “The view from inside the hospital is that this attack was conducted with a purpose to kill and destroy.” Well, no shit, dumbfuck. The purpose of an “attack” is, by definition, to kill and destroy. This statement is basically a tautology. What does he hope to accomplish by saying something like this?

Joanne Liu, another MSF official, explains, “Hospitals have protected status under the rules of war.” OH! So THAT’s what all those JAGs were talking about when they said the exact same thing using the exact same words. Yet, the hospital “came under relentless and brutal aerial attack by US forces.” Again, what do you think the point of an attack is? The goal is to place as many weapons systems on the target as possible. If it is relentless and brutal, that means they are doing it right.

This kind of verbiage is designed to arouse anger and hatred, but it doesn’t add anything constructive to the discussion. If anything, it hurts their own goals by arousing anger at the legitimacy of the US and fueling support for the Taliban.

I’m also a little bit confused by MSF’s position, here. I am looking at a photo of a protest rally over the US allegedly targeting doctors. Yet, this is Afghanistan… A country where women get acid thrown in their faces and pederasty is a cultural institution. Every review of civilian casualties indicates the Taliban kills three times as many civilians as the US, yet I don’t see them protesting this fact. More importantly, what the US does by accident or as isolated criminal incidents, the Taliban does as a matter of deliberate policy. Again, the US is evil and the Taliban apparently gets a pass.

Going deeper into the issue, I can’t comprehend the chain of logic required to deliberately attack a hospital. Every single soldier gets taught the laws of war repeatedly. I just got my most recent JAG re-training this week. There are JAGs whose whole job is to do nothing but vet whether airstrikes are permissible or not. But that’s not the point, either. Deliberately attacking a hospital runs contrary to the strategy that the US has been practicing for the last ten years. Our entire “COIN” strategy is built on the premise of building legitimacy in the eyes of the population.

Do they seriously believe a bunch of Generals just sat around one day and said, “Hey, you know that strategy we’ve been pursuing for the last ten years? The one that serves as the foundation for our entire war effort and the core focus of all our training? What if we decided to just go and do the exact opposite?” The very notion makes no sense at any level.

It reminds me of the 2011 attack on a Pakistani border outpost. The Pakistanis did the same thing: Instead of taking a rational response to the situation, they immediately attacked the US and accused it of willfully and deliberately attacking them. This makes no sense at any level. Pakistan controls the critical US supply lines from sea ports into Afghanistan. After the attack, Pakistan shut off the route as punishment and it became more difficult and expensive to import supplies by air.

Again, the logic is baffling. Imagine a group of Generals sitting around a table thinking, “Hey, you know that country that controls our most strategic supply line? The one that could cut us off at any moment? Let’s go blow up some of their soldiers just to fuck with them. Not enough to make a difference, really, just like ten or twenty.” It makes no sense.

Partly, I think this is a monster of our own making. The US has always been keen to placate critics. Ever since Desert Storm we’ve paraded our ability to use “smart” precision weapons to minimize civilian casualties. I don’t believe there is any army in the world that places as much emphasis and effort into avoid collateral damage as the US. And, in a way, I suspect that this is what makes the entire thing unbelievable. We have spent so many years pandering to and placating our critics by emphasizing our ability to discriminate that it becomes implausible when things inevitably go wrong. It reminds me a little of the bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Serbia… There is no conceivable reason why anyone would deliberately attack an embassy, yet the senior military leadership had just spent months telling everyone how careful we were and suggesting that a mistake would be impossible. I, for one, believe the military should move away from this kind of rhetoric. I would love to see the President get up in front of a crowd and say, “Hey, we’re going to war. Shit is going to get fucked up, a lot of people are going to die, and some of them aren’t going to deserve it. But that’s what war is.” Then, having heard an honest assessment of the reality of the situation, the public could make a more informed choice about whether a war is really what they want.

On a related note, I think the western world has a profound misunderstanding of what war is. Recall the 2010 “Collateral Murder” video, a heavily doctored and misleading version of an air attack. I recall hearing Americans that were just aghast that such a thing could happen. The soldiers I worked with, on the other hand, were just baffled. Attacking the enemy is the point of war. Destroying an armed enemy squad is a victory. Identifying the two reporters in the middle of an enemy squad would (A) require superhuman psychic powers, but more importantly it is (B) irrelevant because the presence of two reporters in the middle of an enemy squad does not render that squad immune to attack. I recall us scratching our heads over this. What did people expect was going to happen in a war? Why were we being sent to fight a war and then called “criminals” for doing the thing you pay us to do?

And, partly, it angers me because part of my work is ensuring compliance with the law and I put a lot of effort into it. For the record, I train military interrogators. I give them comprehensive briefings on the Abu Ghraib atrocities, and I make every interrogator watch the videos produced from the Stanford Prison Experiment. I think I do the best I possibly can to make sure things are done right… But it doesn’t matter, because our enemies (to include human rights groups) have already decided that we are evil and no amount of evidence will change that.

Are you surprised that an organization that has been vocally anti-war since its inception is not particularly supportive of the US war in Afghanistan?

MSF isn’t American, and they have no particularly reason to be supportive of our war-- particularly after we, you know, bombed them. To expect them to be all rah-rah America is just…bizarre.

Ever notice how the headlines seem to be more about how horrible the Israelis are for responding to Palestinian attacks than about the initial Palestinian attacks?

I wonder… how many baby food factories in the US give their employees work uniforms that have printed on them, in bold letters, the phrase “baby food factory” in arabic?

They don’t realize that we only bomb them out of love.

In my opinion, the idea was to extract money and consessions from the US gov. and staking out their position papers. In my thread, a while back , I wanted the MSF hauled up before the war crimes courts if they were going to be using that sort of language, but then Obama for what ever reason decided to take the hit.

Concidering the different places that the MSF is operating, my belief is that the US is only just short of calling them on it, with respect to their neutrality. Since that time, the Saudi’s have bombed another hospital several days ago, and said essentially ooops.

Concidering their freaked out reaction to what should have been concidered a mistake, I am now leaning to the position, that indeed the MSF folks are being targeted, and that this particular episode was just the tip of the spear.

Declan

I agree with almost everything in the OP.
Except for:

It’s not a monster of our own making. The monster was made by television news.
TV is an entertainment medium that runs on ratings. When the news stopped being news, and became entertainment, the entire western world lost its collective mind. (Yes, I’m using a little hyperbole----,but not much.)
Seriously- it is very relevant that the OP mentions Desert Storm as the turning point. It really was…That’s the first time in human history that a major war was presented to the public purely as entertainment: “lets watch Iraq tonight”. It was the newest video game, just like playing Pac-man in the arcades.Put in another coin, and move on to the next screen.

The western world has simply lost the ability to understand that war isn’t entertainment. It is hell, and people die.

I don’t think anybody expects Doctors without Borders to be rah-rah America. But I do expect that people who volunteer for war zones should not be surprised when war happens to them.
Mistakes happen in the fog of war, and those mistakes are deadly. Just like mistakes happen in the doctor’s surgery rooms, and those mistakes are deadly.

Mainly cause that was no mistake, The Chinese were using the embassy as a listening post, and storing wreckage of the downed stealth fighter, is just coincidentally the one spot were the embassy was hit.

As soon as the Chinese calmed down, they were brought to heel when reminded of the neutrality laws and what they were actually doing.

Declan

Why would you expect them to be complacent to the shattered lives, dying kids, horrific injuries and inhuman terror that they work with day to day? Why would you expect them to take a break from sewing up the victims of war to say “Oh, no biggie, shit happens”?

MSF’s position isn’t just that this incident was a horrific fuck up that should have never happened (it was), it’s that this entire war is a horrific fuck that should have never happened. They are well aware that war is tragic and brutal and horrible. That’s why they have only supported a call for armed intervention once in their history (the Rwanda genocide.)

Again, why would an organization that has been against this war to begin with (which, I’m sure you noticed, is not a particularly unusual position- this war won’t win many popularity contests) then shurg it’s shoulders after they get personally bombed?

The OP isn’t asking them to shrug their shoulders. He is asking why the organization’s leaders issue statements which are irresponsible. Saying “the attack was conducted with the purpose to kill and destroy” is simply stupid. “Relentless and brutal attack” is also stupid, as the OP points out.

The important issue is how the attack was decided on, who typed the mathermatical coordinates into the weapons systems, what lines of communication the hospital maintains with the American headquarters, is the building marked clearly, are there legitimate military targets nearby, etc.

Simply declaring that America is brutal does not make me feel any sympathy for the organization’s leadership. Instead, it makes me suspicious of their intentions.

But the attack was carried out with the intent to kill and destroy, right? Yes, that is what happens in war. That’s a part of why some people and organizations are against some wars.

That may be what you, personally, are most concerned with. It sounds to me like MSF is concerned with something else.

You have noticed that this war hasn’t been universally loved, no? People have no obligation to support us in this.