Elections Don't Exist

So, uh… you gonna post any of those facts (let alone any logical connections) any time soon spunky?

I believe you owe Joey Lawrence a nickel.

Keanu

I have been wondering what the fuss about the Fed is about for some time, and I still don’t get it. detour, would you please respond in a factual manner and break it down for us?

-How are the Jews in control of everything? You keep implying that but you aren’t backing it up AFAICT. I use ‘everything’ a little loosely so don’t get pedantic about that.

-Is the Bilderburg (sp?) group a part of your complaint? I have heard people get worked up about those guys but again, I just can’t make sense of their complaint. Go ahead and explain it as if I’m 6.

-Are you sure elections don’t exist at all? What is wrong with a weaker position, like ‘politicians are heavily influenced by wealthy interest groups and corporations that may include individual Jews but are not limited to or defined by them, yet they have not succeeded in converting the world into a true evil oligarchy as evidenced by the fact that we are not all, in fact, slaves’? Again, condescend if you must, but please please base it on facts I can verify in my spare time.

Whoa, genocide. And a “military run” by the banks. Are their security guards secretly training at FEMA camps for the Big Takeover?

If that genocide doesn’t work, fortunately there’s a backup extermination plan, the one where we are mercilessly killed off by mass vaccination (Bill Gates is in charge of that one, and if he isn’t Jewish he ought to be). :frowning:

I said dumb, I meant dumb. You’ve yet to post a single actual historic or scientific fact to support any of your assertions. The “facts” you have provided have been thoroughly debunked. Your premises are invalid, your arguments have no logic, and your conclusions are both invalid and laughable. **You **are the person attack ads are aimed at, because **you **are the person who will swallow the spin uncritically.

About the only thing I’ll grant you is that the political process in this country has been pretty thoroughly subverted by “big money”, most visibly since the Citizens United decision. (That’s a conclusion I’d reached over a decade ago, so you can’t take credit for that.) Despite that, the common citizen and their vote can still make a difference. Don’t believe me? Then consider that the “big money” people are spending very big money to persuade the common citizen to vote their way. They wouldn’t be doing that if they didn’t have to.

Lastly, the reason I said it had only been three days was because I figured even crazy conspiracy theory people have a life, and you might be off having it. I don’t know whether to wish you’d go back to it or not; you’re not going to convince anyone here your theories have any grounding in reality, and we’re not likely to convince you that you took a left turn at the fork and wound up in surreality.

[**FinnAgain **and Darth Panda, I picked up “Like, Whoa” from Rasa, who still occasionally posts.]

Can you imagine how sad this guy’s life is if this is what he does for fun? I imagine he has to clean a lot of public bathrooms.

It is a fact that the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations shared a common thread. Both presidents printed currencies that were outside the control of international bankers. Lincoln’s Greenbacks and Kennedy’s United States Notes are historical fact. Look it up.

Andrew Jackson vetoed a congressional bill which would have extended the charter of the international banks. There was a failed attempt on his life. Look it up.

Some momo posted that the United States Note had been in circulation since 1870. THAT was nonsense.

Sweetie, I did look it up, which is why I know you’re full of it.

The “Greenback” was created in 1861 and began circulating in March 1862.

Executive order 11110 was used to get silver certificates out of circulation, because their use had depleted government silver reserves. People were redeeming them to get silver at the artificially low price it was sold at by the Treasury, then reselling it at the higher market rate set by industrial demand for silver.

Neither of these things had anything to do with international bankers.

And as others have pointed out, Richard Lawrence, the man who tried to kill Andrew Jackson, thought he (Lawrence) was Richard III and that Jackson was preventing him (Richard) from getting a large sum of money. I suppose you could call that a connection to the banks, but it’s tenuous.

As I said before, your premises are baseless, your arguments illogical, and your conclusions laughable. Try reading some actual history books for a change.

Guess what Lincoln drank in order to avoid becoming dehydrated? Water. And Kennedy? Water. Hell, even Reagan was known to be drinking water off and on before his assassination attempt. There, I’ve proved it, black people rule the world and are evil.
You poor, sad, stupid asshole.

What have you got against assholes? Mine performs a very useful function, without which I’d probably die.

That’s it! It’s a conspiracy of assholes! They’re tired of being the ones who have to move the shit out and are sending it back up the pipes to poison our brains! It’s the only possible explanation!!!

:wink:

Detour does have a point here …

… and there he goes again.

My. You should hire out to do that.

Seriously J666, what exactly is your damage? Nobody has denied that being able to finance an election campaign is a major component in actually being able to run for office. Because it’s blindingly, blazingly fucking obvious. Your continued refrain that this lunatic racist has some sort of point that we must have a scholarly discussion over is fast approaching caricature. Do you really not understand that this insane person has gone from the fact that elections require extreme financing to the position that there is a secret cabal of Jews and their puppets who rule the world?

Does these little tidbits not enter into your mind at some point while you’re pointing out all of this crazy person’s “good points”?

You don’t seem to understand the difference between assertions and evidence. You have repeatedly asserted some sort of connection between the assassinations of Lincoln and Kennedy. What you have not done is show any evidence that the stated connection actually exists. I think we all sufficient information on what your opinion is. Now, present some actual evidence, if you please.

Bonus question: let’s say you’re perfectly correct, and that Zionist Jews somehow exert a controlling influence on US politics. In what ways, precisely, do you think your life would be different if this were not the case?

Yes, there’s lots for crazy conspiracy theory people to do besides posting on the Dope.

You’ve got to hang out at davidicke.com to see what the alien reptiloids are up to, Stormfront for their racial insights, and whale.to for the medical-industrial complex’s latest machinations. There are meetings to attend, survivalist supplies to stock up on, and enemies following you in suspicious dark-colored conveyances which must be evaded. There’s so much to do and so little time, that we are grateful for the brief flashes of enlightenment you can spare us.

In other words, you’ll fit right in here. Welcome!

Seriously, Finn, what is your problem? Did you not see the second part of the post? The “… and there he goes again”? Or do you assume that’s meant as supportive of him?

On one hand we have a garden variety CTist and on the other the stunningly advance conclusion that this person is nuts. This, frankly, is not interesting. However, watching a valid critique of this society suddenly plummet into CTism, is fascinating.

AS are some of the fierce defenses of reason. As are some of the more obscure bits of monetary policy history.

Reductio ad absurdam responses? Not so much. Blindingly obvious, in fact.

Your schtick bemoaning how we haven’t engaged in a detailed logical refutation/discussion of his nuttery coupled with statements about how the nutter has nuggets of fact buried inside the mountain of lunacy? It’s beyond worn out. Quit it.

-“Hey everybody, water is wet and the freezing point of water is -100 degrees celcius, and that proves that gay blacks control the world!”
-“Woe, oh woe! People are not responding with a detailed analysis of the chemical composition and properties of water. And verily, yea verily, he is correct on one point for water is indeed wet! Shame upon ye all, shame!”
If you want to debate the ramifications of the current cost of running a political campaign, then you’d be much better served by opening up a new thread. Popping into a racist CT’s spew-thread about how he hates Jews and their thralls and he’s annoyed at the “Zionists” who control the world… and adding your two cents that we aren’t properly discussing the few rare facts that are resident in his ravings? It got real old, real fast. By now it’s a fucking mummy shambling about and panhandling for change.

What is this “we haven’t engaged in a detailed logical refutation”? You have not. Several other people have done just that, and it has been interesting and informative. And, possibly, accurate. You might want to look into that.

Furthermore, do you really think ‘Lincoln and Kennedy both drank water’ and ‘Do I have to spell it out for you?’ are fresh and exciting?

Do you really think your posts are blows against ignorance? They are not. They are school-yard taunts, meaningless parroting of a party line, and shockingly ill-informed on some points. That the party line you have chosen is, in fact, intellectually, historically, and morally the right one can be no more that a lucky accident, based on what you posted here.

You know, if you find my posts so annoying, maybe you should not read them at all instead of reading them halfway through and throwing a hissy fit.

And don’t ever embarrass me with such a shudderingly ignorant statement again.

*Quick, Captain Overinflated Ego! Some folks aren’t giving a thorough logical analysis to the racist lunatic’s conspiracy theory in the Pit! Get on your high horse and gallop on over there! *

If you didn’t have your head lodged firmly in your rectum, you might realize that I pointed out, rather clearly, that the racist’s argument is a classic cum hoc ergo propter hoc argument. That you neither find it “fresh” nor as “exciting” just goes to the fact that your ego could serve as a personal flotation device, and you expect people mocking a racist in the Pit to give you fresh, exciting posts. Your sense of self-entitlement is, however, somewhat in keeping with your general faux-superior mien. Then again, since you didn’t recognize a logical refutation when you saw one, perhaps, what’s the phrase… the fact that you don’t drown when it rains is only a lucky accident, based on what you posted here.

I’ve not been ill informed on any single point. Which is exactly why you can’t point to a single incorrect statement I’ve made, and why you’re just trying to stir up shit in some twisted apologia for a racist lunatic. * You’re trying to play as if you’re somehow intellectually superior, but you’re just managing to come off as a jerk with an overinflated ego and a rod up his ass.

De-rod yourself, Captain.

P.S. Asshole? Check on the link I provided giving a wealth of interesting, accurate and informative background information on the Talmud and misuses racists have put it to over the years. Might be hard to crane your head if that rod’s pokin’ up into your cranium, as it seems to be. Hopefully your mouse has a scroll wheel?

Stop hijacking this thread and embarrassing us both.

[And re-read #277 until you figure out what you did.]

[And don’t refer to posting a link as if it is an argument. it’s not. It’s a link.]