Ahh…it seems friend **samclem **may have reading comprehension problems of his own, eh?
Careful there,** samclem**, you know what they say: “People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw parties.”
Ahh…it seems friend **samclem **may have reading comprehension problems of his own, eh?
Careful there,** samclem**, you know what they say: “People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw parties.”
Actually several people have noticed this, both in this thread and the original one, and I quite agree; even if the mother of the President were someone we should be paying attention to, this quote is hardly worth commenting on. Nonetheless, it’s quite amusing to watch milroyj climb ever further out on to this ludicrous branch he’s chosen. Apparently, if something isn’t freely available on the internet on a site that milroyj doesn’t deem unacceptable (not lefty blogs like the International Herald Tribune), it’s not a cite. Who knew?
Thanks, Brutus, that’s exactly my point. They DO think that Charlie Rose forums are a cite. I don’t get it, but there it is.
Come now. Since when have Editorial columns been acceptable cites?
Whenever the Clinton-haters have wanted to bring “discuss” the Juanita Broaddrick “rape”, they’ve claimed the Wall Street Journal editorial page proved it. It hasn’t been anywhere else, unfortunately.
SA you “wonder” where I got the quote? http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com .
Elvis Who?
And what’s with the number “1” in the posters post?
Signed, The Jake1ster. Of whom none will ever know !!
milroyj, may I ask: What is your problem with accepting www.transcripts.tv as an official cite?
LilShieste
And yet you used Guinistasia’s clip when pitting ElvisL1ves, deliberately leading poor Starving Artist to draw the wrong conclusion about what was said, simply because he is too lazy to go look up the actual posts before jumping in with his little rant.
I think you should apologize to Starving Artist for leading him astray.
(And he can apologize to you for ever believing anything you post.)
Old news. I’ve already been advised that the quote in the OP was not yours, but was originally found and quoted by Guinistasia.
Here’s the original post the OP is whining like a little bitch about:
Posted by ElvisL1ves Yesterday 07:08 AM
So, tell us again, what the fuck are you on about, Starving Artiste? Besides your usual lemmming-like behavior to align with Bushiviks regardless of topic and/or substance that is.
On preview: I see that weaseldick has now conveniently changed his story to accuse Guin instead. Guess there’s still the slight problem of the thread TITLE itself.
Oh, and Brutus?
a joke, right? Nobody is actually retarded enough to link to the ‘Charlie Rose’ forums as a cite I hope…)
I realize you were dropped as a child and thus your clicking ability is quite obviously impaired, 'cuase if it wasn’t you might have noticed that said post, is, in turn linked to UnderReported.com. And further, if your froth hadn’t also impaired your vision, you might have also noticed that the webmaster for said site, michaelmalak, posted a:
link to a free reference – an International Herald Tribune copy of a May 23, 2004 New York Times column.
Reputable cites:
Lexis/Nexis = nope
Transcripts Tv = nope
NYT = nope
IHT = nope
FreeRepublic = But of course!
Swift Boat blah blah blah = Clearly!
Guess the only question that remains is, can the lot of you scumbags be any more dishonest?
milroyj, may I ask: What is your problem with accepting www.transcripts.tv as an official cite?
LilShieste
You are going to link to the actual transcript at transcripts.tv for us? Damn, that is kind of you!
milroyj, do you have a drinking problem?
Hmm, that would fall firmly in the category of none of your damn business. Thanks for being a jerk, though.
deliberately leading poor Starving Artist to draw the wrong conclusion about what was said, simply because he is too lazy to go look up the actual posts before jumping in with his little rant.
I’m surprised at you tomndebb. You aren’t usually so snide, even in the pit. If you think I should take the time to trace everything anyone says in any thread on any subject I’m about to post to, you’re quite mistaken. I would point out as well that, like I said, most of the discussion in this thread seemed to be regarding the legitimacy of the cites being used. There’s only been a brouhaha over milroyj’s quote, which he attributed to **ElvisL1ves **but which was apparently originated here at the SDMB by Guinistasia, since I brought it up.
God damn it, but I am getting frustrated here.
Underreported.com is NOT a cite.
Neither is an opinion column, no matter where it appears.
RedFury, WTF are you talking about? I thought my response to the interview you just posted was perfectly clear and other posters here have validated my POV on it. How is this lemming-like? She said what she said, and she meant what she meant. It’s perfectly obvious from the interview you posted for us again, that she did not say or imply what the quote in the OP (from Guinistasia, apparently) attributed to her.
You are going to link to the actual transcript at transcripts.tv for us? Damn, that is kind of you!
Yeah, that would be kind of me. But I’m not the one making this claim:
Bullshit. You have not given a singular solitary cite to back up your allegation. Not one. I know this wasn’t in Great Debates, but c’mon. If she made the “beautiful mind” comment, it would have been newsworthy at the time. But all you can come up with is “I read it on the internet, so it must be true.”
Provide one cite. Or shut up.
Even if I paid for the transcript, I would bet that I couldn’t post a link to it from the SDMB (kinda defeats the purpose of charging a fee, eh?). So then, I would say “it’s there… the second-hand sources are correct.” Of course, milroyj’s argument (et al.) wouldn’t change, simply because they don’t want to pony up the $30.
If you want a primary source, then you’re going to have to cough up the damn money. If you’re not willing to pay the fee, then stop bitching about no one putting up a cite.
Otherwise, take the second-hand source, and put a cork in it.
LilShieste
…Otherwise, take the second-hand source, and put a cork in it.
Sure thing. Hey, wait, I have a ‘Plan B’: Laugh at the ludicrous ‘cites’ provided, reflect on the rather lower standard of ‘cite’ that the board Lefties impose on themselves, and ignore the matter.
Ya, I like Plan B.
You may want to check that link you implore us to look at, Mssr.samclem. (Although humorously enough, it looks to be a link to the ‘Charlie Rose’ forums. It’s a joke, right? Nobody is actually retarded enough to link to the ‘Charlie Rose’ forums as a cite I hope…)
I call this meeting of the Three Stooges Chowder and Marching Society to Order.
Brutus. Please follow my instructions.
l. Go to the OP of this thread in which we are now both posting.
2. Next, read the first line. It says “In this thread http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=274416, ElvisL1ves strenuously makes the claim that Barbara Bush made the following statement on Good Morning America on March 18, 2003.”
Originally Posted by Barbara Bush Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?
This is a lie. If you go to that link, and read page 3, post # 129, you will see what I’ve already explained once in this here cotton pickin’ thread.
ELVIS did NOT say what milroyj accused him of. Elvis provided a complete, factual copy of the ABC News transcript.
So the whole premise of this pitting was based on a lie. Probably not a deliberate one. Just sloppy work on the part of the OP.
milroyj, to his credit, figured this out and said( in post #37)
Gosh darn it, samclem. The cut and paste job was done by commondreams.org, cited by Guinistasia, not by me.
Starving Artist, also falling victim to the deceitfulness of the OP in this thread, chimes in that it’s all a conspiracy. Then he allows as how he accepts that I’M right but he doesn’t have time to go back and read the original post by Elvis. But he’s got time to make two more ditto posts to this thread.
Since it takes posting the same imformation more than once, please read mhendo’s post #18 in our current thread. He provided the same transcript that Elvis did. Read it.
Since you don’t trust what you’ve been provided, go to the library and find it yourselves.
Since you don’t trust what you’ve been provided, go to the library and find it yourselves.
Alternatively, why doesn’t Elvis, et al, post a link, available to all? Because he can’t, that’s why. Oh well.
Alternatively, why doesn’t Elvis, et al, post a link, available to all? Because he can’t, that’s why. Oh well.
No, he can’t. All the primary cites he can find require registration. This is not the same thing as being unable to find any cite at all. Now, unless you want to accuse the half dozen posters in this thread who have verified the exsistence of the primary cite via their own registered services liars, why don’t you just shut the fuck up, already?