Guess I must not run in the circles where it evolved. 's the first I’ve seen of it, and I’d like to think (like to think) that truth doesn’t defeat what I want. But then that’s my opinion, I could be wrong. I also coulda sworn that the quote from Barbara Bush was supplied verbatim (if, I think, taken somewhat out of context) more than once.
Nothing personal. Just a dig for a dig. 
It was. That’s why I’m confused. The OP claimed an out of context cut-and-paste version of her words which was misleading and untrue. As you say, it was then supplied verbatim several times, thus disproving the version quoted in the OP. Frostillicus seems to be saying the quote as it appears in the OP has been verified several times and that I’m refusing to see it. I’m simply asking WTF, as this doesn’t make sense.
I’m going to have to ask for a citation on that little phrase. Google is coming up empty for me. Are you sure you’re not just making shit up?
Here’s one of my search attempts to help get you started.
No, not really making it up as I have heard it before, probably on some talk program. But as I said to iampunha, I was basically just trading digs with Frostylicious. Giving as good as I got, so to speak. The slogan really isn’t to be taken seriously. I’m sure there’s plenty of disingenuousity to around on both sides.
I am reminded of at least one military conflict wherein battle ensued after the treaty was signed (word of the peace accord had not yet reached all partied involved). Perhaps this is simply some of that.
Re: trading dig for dig, I don’t gotta make up jack shit about W. He’s dug his own;)
Yeah, in your head. But i’m sure that’s congenital and not your fault at all.
Well, let’s have a look at how this thread started, shall we? And we’ll start with milroyj’s OP.
The OP, in full, says:
So, milroyj started this thread disputing that Barbara Bush had ever used the words “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? Oh, I mean, it’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”
Now, let’s look at the quote i provided from a Lexis/Nexis search:
As you can see, there’s a slight difference between what milroyj posted in his OP and what Barbara Bush actually said. But if there’s any fault for this, it lies with milroyj.
You see, milroyj posted his OP at 11.11am on September 5. Yet, at 7.08am on September 4 (i.e., over 28 hours earlier) ElvisL1ves had posted a quotation that agreed, word for word, with the one i found on Lexis/Nexis. ElvisL1ves never, ever said what milroyj accused him of saying.
So, milroyj’s OP in this thread was a disingenuous one, a misrepresentation of what ElvisL1ves had actually written in the earlier thread.
If you don’t believe me, take a look at the original thread, the one that spawned this one. It contains seven posts by ElvisL1ves, and i defy you to find a single post where ElvisL1ves offers the same quotation that milroyj uses in his OP.
This thread was based on a lie, and compounded by idiocy which you seem intent on perpetuating in an effort to support your intellectual doppelganger milroyj.
Now you know how the mediators in the Israeli/Palestinian crisis must feel. 
In five years of lurking and occasional posting, I don’t believe I’ve ever seen so classless a display of behavior as Milroyj’s in this thread.
If you now believe Barbara Bush said what she allegedly said, then admit it and either discuss it or move on.
If you still deny she said it, then explain why.
Whining for cites and then figuratively spitting on the people who provide them is stunningly childish.
milroyj’s like the Energizer Bunny on coke with a case of diarrhea. Turd after turd after turd just keep popping out – barely disguised as “posts.”
Good thing there are people like Brutus around to lap them up.
starving artist, I think there’s one thing you can learn from this debacle:
never trust a word that milroyj says.
I’d give Brutus the same advice, but I’m afraid he’s too far gone. I don’t think you are.
There are smart and honest conservatives on this board. milroyj is not among them. He is, and I say this calmly and without rancor, contemptible, and not worth your time. Defend him, and you’re setting yourself up for a huge embarassment.
Sure, on occasion he might be right about something (theoretically–I’ve never seen it happen). But do not trust his own claims.
Daniel
Well, as they say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Unfortunately, milroyj isn’t even that accurate.
He’s not so much broken as he is really, really slow. And a really slow clock is not right nearly so often.
Daniel
Starving Artist, my fine dumpling, my pet conservative, I join with Left Hand of Dorkness to implore you: Save your passionate defenses for those worthy of them. This board NEEDS a strong, thoughtful conservative side in the debates, but milroyj isn’t it. Please don’t dissipate your energies on rallying to putative allies who do more harm than good for your cause.
ETF, LHoD, thank you for your advice. (And to you, ETF, I appreciate the fond appellations. ) I have many friends here on both sides of the “aisle,” so to speak, and I appreciate your concern. But my purpose in posting wasn’t to defend milroyj, it was to point out that Barbara Bush didn’t really say what was quoted in the OP. True, Futile Gesture said as much in post #4, but no one seemed to be paying any attention. The main thrust of the thread seemed to be the validity of the various cites, rather than the fact that Barbara Bush’s quote was taken out of context and made to appear other than it really was. I wanted to bring attention back to that fact, as it appeared everyone was accepting the quote in the OP at face value.
As far as milroyj goes, I’m aware he’s one of the four conservatives on this board ;), but I haven’t paid a great deal of attention to his posts in the main. (I get into enough trouble on my own, and have to spend most of my time defending my own posts.) 
It seems though that a nerve was struck in this thread, and based on his response I have to say I feel badly for him. If he does indeed have such a problem he is deserving of our best wishes and encouragement, as he has greater sadness and unhappiness in his life than anything anyone here could ever make him feel through their vitriol.
I’ll say this much in milroyj’s defence: I once confused the Founding Fathers with the framers of the Constitution in a post blasting him. An incredibly stupid mistake on my behalf, but he was very cool about letting me off the hook when I admitted my mistake. So he’s not all bad.
Unfortunetly, he’s also dumb as a post. And I say this as a liberal who counts both Starving Artist and Brutus among his favorite posters.
Thanks, Miller. I appreciate that, especially as I can count you as one of the posters I have learned from.
I have to say I get a kick out of Brutus. He’s kind of like an elucidator of the right…or should I say an eluciator who is right?
No shit. What this board needs, in my extremely unqualified, you-didn’t-ask-but-I-paid-to-post-so-you-gotta-suffer opinion, is folks who have their personal opinions but are (shock and awe) able to consider that their counterparts on whichever side (or those of us more-or-less firmly in the middle) have solid marks against those same opinions. One big reason I stay out of GD is that in too many cases it seems folks are more interested in winning the debate, skirting the personal insult line (“Well, everyone I’ve ever known who said that was an absolute moron…”) and generally spewing as much hateful partisan bile as they can … than they are in considering opposing viewpoints, examining evidence they might not have seen before and admitting they might be wrong (I am as guilty as the next in that last department, of course;)). Of course, too many cases, to me, is one or two on the front page, but since they sometimes contain really important ideas that need to be fleshed out without someone coming and saying “You doofus, cnn.com has never been an accepted cite. Why don’t you go masturbate to pictures of Clinton again?” or “You bridge-dweller, you know fox news makes money on the side killing babies for sport!”, that becomes a real issue and lessens enjoyment of the board, which is I think one reason we’re all here;)
:: pant pant pant ::
I would hazard a guess that milroyj will not be so quick to carelessness elsewhere as he was here. Lastly, I find this appropriate. It’s the sig on a listserv of which I am a member:
“Please keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.”
Well, it seemed to me that most people caught on fairly quickly to the fact that milroyj was the one distorting the actual words said into something more pejorative, to make his attack on ElvisL1ves harsher. The lack of debate about what her actual language and intent were I believe was attributable primarily to the OP’s playing Goldilocks and the Three Cites: “That cite’s too partisan! That cite’s too expensive! That cite’s not on the Internet!” You may notice that once the validity of the full quote was established (to everyone but milroyj’s satisfaction), Mrs. Bush’s words were duly parsed.
We’ve noticed. 
It’s harder for me to feel badly for him, since I’ve read far too much of his own idiotic vitriol to have much sympathy. Now, if he were at least capable of spewing clever, witty vitriol, I might give more of a damn.
As if we needed further proof that your sense of judgement is waaaaaaaaaaaay out of alignment.
(What’s next, Carrot Top as the next Stephen Hawking?)