Enterprise, 2nd episode and I'm losing interest

So what happened with the language stuff? I admit, I was cooking dinner while watching the first half, so I may have missed it. But the first 3 shows made it VERY apparant that WE DON’T HAVE TRANSLATORS. Now, I see what’s-his-name frolicking in the holodeck with an alien who speaks English!

Tell me I just missed the explaination, please.

“This is as close to water as we could get”.

As LateComer has already intimated, this seems a little unlikely. Also, they were then in the holodeck in a boat on a sea of “resequenced photons” that looked and acted remarkably like water. Surely any species that can make a whole alien landscape appear in a small room would have the technology to combine hydrogen and oxygen to make water. Even puny 20th century humans could do that.

The gravity in the opening sequence. Why did it come back all at once, instead of slowly? Wouldn’t they set it up that way so things wouldn’t break? (like glasses, paintings, bones, ect.)

And, given that the gravity DID come rushing back all at once, shouldn’t we have heard a dog yelping there in the captain’s room?

I really enjoyed this episode, holodeck notwithstanding. At least everyone who tried the holodeck treated it as the techie miracle that it would be to them. Also, there’s no guarantee that the Klingons will be able to duplicate the device, even assuming that the captain and crew of that ship are willing to turn it over for study. I’m pretending that the “resequenced photons” bit was a translation error–you can’t always count on engineers being able to communicate clearly with their own species, much less another. I’m not going to worry much about the transporter; it’s far from the standard mode of travel it was in the other series. They’re justifiably scared of using it, and the problems with it are the result of a somewhat flaky new technology, not odd minerals or other plot contrivances.

T’pol is definitely improving–I think the actress is starting to settle into the character, and while I don’t like T’pol (we’re not supposed to at this point), I can see potential in her.

And, of course, ICSMHFH absolutely made my day.

The aliens obviously have a different atmosphere than ours, as evidenced by the decompression. I think what was implied is that plain H[sub]2[/sub]O would be unstable and what was given to Trip was H[sub]2[/sub]O with some other stuff added for stability. And the sea could have been a fluid almost, but not quite, completely unlike plain water.

So far, we know that the replicator is capable of creating carbonated water. Maybe it’s only capable of working with relatively simple molecules?

Y’know, I don’t think anybody ever said that was a replicator. I assumed that it was just a voice-activated dispenser, a fancy espresso machine–it dumped the glop that was almost but not quite entirely unlike carbonated water out through a spout.

Am I the only one totally unsurprised that the Vulcan drinks yuppie water?

We also have to remember that the aliens’ food was being produced on the walls, and not through any replicators. Also, there wasn’t anything that would suggest that the holo-technology on their ship was integrated - hell, even on Voyager the holodeck was a seperate system, and on TNG they couldn’t remove things from the holodeck.

And also regarding the dog yelping in the background - I can rarely hear my phone ringing when I’m in the shower. Authenticity should only go so far…

I’m a hard core Trek fan from way back. I once put off getting 6 stitches in my scalp to watch the premier of Voyager. (Should have gotten the stitches.) I want to like this show. Until last night I was having serious trouble. I couldn’t sit through the premier, watched only about 30 minutes of the first episode and made myself sit through the second. I liked last nights. I almost thought that we were seeing some inside jokes that only Trekkers would get.

I seem to agree with everyone else, the Doctor is definitely the best character so far. I think the loss of gravity was a good touch. I wanted to see that little beagle floating about with its ears waving straight out from his head.

“I can see my house from here”…
As they say in the Visa ads Priceless!

Just two questions that have nothing to do with continuity. After all, continuity is the first victim in prequels.

How the hell did Trip know how to fix technology he’d never even seen before? He would know if he was looking at a plasma manifold or a flux capacitor.

Why does the crew have ‘phase pistols’ but no ship born weapons of similar design? They don’t even mention phasers or other large scale energy weapons.

They don’t have large-scale energy weapons on the ship, just torpedoes. I don’t believe they even have a tractor beam yet. It’s fairly obvious that Star Fleet is behind the Klingons, technologically.

As for the holodeck, one was seen on Kirk’s Enterprise in an animated episode (“Practical Joker”), but I know the animated series is not supposed to be canon. However, I’m also fairly sure that Roddenberry once stated there was a “high-tech recreation room” on the TOS ship “able to re-create any environment” (apparently taking the word “recreation” literally!), but they never had the money or the FX resources in the 1960s to show it. (It’s supposed to be the same reason they never showed the Klingons the way they “really” are until the first movie.)

I liked the designs of the aliens and the interior of their ship. It was a good attempt to create a truly alien experience for Trip. (At times, I thought Trip had gone back in time to the 1960s!)

I think the captain, Archer I think, is a hick who can’t act.

And clearly, you were paying great attention to the show, as you knew what the captain’s name was, hmmm…?

Maybe it’s not interesting enough for me to devoted all my attention to the t.v. for an hour.

Bah. To each his own.

Bah? BAH??

Why not “aroint thee, varlet!”

Because I heven’t been infect with that virus that makes me think I’m D’arta…Dartan…The 4th Muskateer.

carnivorousplant wrote:

This is a question that has generated great controversy, both on this message board and elsewhere.

There is some conflicting evidence. In “Charlie X”, the galley staffers tell Kirk that Thanksgiving turkeys have mysteriously appeared in their ovens. In Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, we get a clear view of the galley on NCC-1701A, which looks like a conventional kitchen. However, in “The Trouble with Tribbles,” Kirk asks a wall compartment for a “Chicken sandwich and coffee,” and the compartment immediately opens up with the food he’d requested right there (only strewn with tribbles, because by then the tribbles had gotten into everything).

My take on it is that the wall compartment Kirk was talking to in “The Trouble with Tribbles” was similar to the sandwich (and coffee) vending machines we had in the 20th century. Several possible selections had been prepared ahead of time, and were stored at the appropriate temperature, so that they could be dispensed to crew members on demand and eaten immediately. No replicator technology is required to pull this off – only voice-recognition technology and an efficient vending-machine-like dispensing system would be necessary.

I recall a few times when someone would slide one of those data cards (which were really just thin, painted, wooden squares) into the wall to get the food he wanted.

TRIVIA: In which episode of TOS did they show a food slot in the transporter room? (It’s the only time this food slot appeared.) What was ordered? Who ordered it? And why was it necessary to have a food slot in the transporter room in the first place? (This is a production question, not a story question.)

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