Enterprise final episode---SPOILERS

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The latest issue of TV Guide reveals something you won’t like, especially if your username is carnivorousplant.
It’s possible that we might see Chef before the finale, but in the finale itself, Chef will be Riker, in a holodeck re-creation that takes place during the “Pegasus” episode of Next Gen.

You may now insert curse words at will.
Still gonna watch it?

What really bugs me about the finale is that it is oriented around two Next Gen characters instead of the ENT folks.

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Could it be? Are my wildest dreams about to come true? Are they going to make the entire series unhappen by having it all be a holodeck program of Riker’s?

I could jump for joy. :smiley:

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I might as well make the experience official, and install a dentist’s chair in my living room to maximize the effect of the final episodes. :mad:

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To be fair, it’s not that ENT was a holodeck fantasy. The idea is that after the Pegasus events, Riker decides to use the holodeck to recreate things from the Archer days and get some “command insights” or some such bull.

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Hey, I’ll take what I can get, because the fact that it’s all a holodeck program shoehorns an opening in continuity through which all manner of alternative interpretations and explanations may pass. In other words, a holodeck program is not necessarily an accurate representation of Trek future history; Riker may have modified the facts in some way for his own personal use, or the program may have been constructed based on incomplete data.
LET THE REJOICING BEGIN!! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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Unless there is explicit dialogue to that effect, this episode in and of itself no more invalidates the four seasons of Enterprise than Far Beyond the Stars invalidates Deep Space Nine.

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“Far Beyond the Stars” was different, for two reasons which I will explain here:

  • There is direct evidence that Benny Russell, not Benjamin Sisko, is the illusion. In the episode itself, the street preacher (the counterpart to Sisko’s father) tells Benny Russell “You are the dreamer and the dream.” This strongly implies reality outside Benny Russell’s world. A later episode (the two parter “Image in the Sand”/“Shadows and Symbols”) confirms that Sisko’s life as Sisko is real, and his life as Benny Russell is a vision sent to him by the Prophets in “Far Beyond the Stars” to teach him, and by the Pah-wraiths in the two parter to confuse him.

-The illusion of Benny Russell wasn’t a man-made holodeck program, it was a creation of the Prophets.

Don’t argue Star Trek with me, I’ll run rings around you.

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You can believe what you want but, as I said, unless Riker or Troi state something to the effect of the entire program being their creation, the series will be canon regardless of your wishes.

As for your last paragraph, I couldn’t really care less. You won’t be the first person to know more about Trek, nor will you be the last. It’s a hobby, not a profession.

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Are you to be Orin Scrivello or Wilbur Force (or Arthur Denton) in this scenario? Carnivorousplant’s role is obvious.