Oooh! I like their rail launch system. Cool.
Not a thing to do with Kitty Hawk, btw…
Joystick controls? I guess the NX prototypes were more like airplanes (or even nuclear subs) than anything else. Shouldn’t be surprising, really. They were ground launched.
As a Trek ep, not stellar (pun!) but not awful.
NOT a stand alone episode. Though it does help with the backstory motivation stuff.
Quantum: "If my Daddy were alive today, he’d say, ‘What the hell are we waiting for?!’ "
T’Pol says it! “Fascinating.”
That bartender girl, WOW! (Ruby Tuesday)
I liked the ending
Robinson: “See you out there.” He sure did, thanks to T’Pol. The Robinson Nebula.
When I hate something, everyone else loves it.
Tasteless Byzantines!
You and your Constant tinoples!
Hey, notice I did say it isn’t a stand alone ep. So, that’s a nit, right?
I really liked Ruby Tuesday!
Down, Panda…
I’m watching it now, and the cool thing I noticed was that Trip said he was on Captain Jeffries’ engineering team. I believe this is the first time we’ve had a reference to the guy that has all those tubes named after him.
Matt Jeffries lived two hundred years? Wow… I guess those cryo-satellites really do work.
I just now realized that I’ll only be able to catch one episode at most this weekend. I hate living in an area with no UPN. :mad:
I liked this one as well. Seeing how Archer and Trip met, and Ruby, who hadn’t been mentioned since “Shuttlepod One,” and seeing T’Pol being kind to Archer. Interesting.
Why wasn’t Trip in trouble as well after helping Archer and Robinson? Because they roped him into it?
Linus: Yeah, I’m learning to hold my own around here.
Calm down!
Is there some sort of Ruby Tuesday mythos?
Goodbye…Ruby Tuesday…
Though her Big Line seemed out-of-place:
Two macho pilots beat the crap out of each other in her bar, breaking everything they land on, and all she can say in the way of admonishment is “We’re never going to break warp 5 at this rate”?!?
Was AG Robinson a tribute to Andy Robinson who played Garak?
No, he was a tribute to Mrs. Robinson, who showed Dustin Hoffman a good time.
Spoilers below
So this ep gets a big ole “pheh.” from me. Apollo 13 was better.
The only part I was really interested in was finding out what Ruby’s kids were going to be named. And that turned out to just be a throwaway comment; there was never a punchline. I was so sure someone was going to finally guess right, and the name was going to be something clever, like Quantum, or Agrobinson. And it never happened. So disappointing.
As to the actual plot, well, yeah, okay… Zooming spaceships, flashbacks galore, dark matter nebula thingies. Oh, and the Last Ditch Giant Gamble that pays off, despite being criminal at best… Was I the only one that thought Archer and Robinson got off WAY easy? I mean, damn, if I stole a spaceship from my office, I’d lose my job. Hell, I’d probably go to jail. I don’t know, maybe they’re more lenient about those things in the future.
So, a few negatives for this ep, but I’ve seen worse.
I would now like to point out the Very Best Part of this whole episode:
When Archer punches Robinson, Trip jumps up from the table, leaps backwards balletically, and has the presence of mind to quickly pull a chair out of the way, thus clearing the shot for the fight scene. A beautifully executed stunt, all the more so because I’m pretty sure I couldn’t have executed it without spraining an ankle. I wonder how many takes they did, trying to figure out how to shoot that scene with the damn chair in the way, before they decided to move it. Looked fakey as hell, but you’ve got to admire the athletecism.
C’est tout for me. I’m off to the Bounty thread, now. Whoopie.
Love, Kn*ckers
Dagny (nickednamed slug)
and Francisco, aka “Frisco”.
You are such a spaz. I’m gonna call you AesJr…
The kids were named in an earlier ep on a computer readout.
Robert T April
Amanda Rogers
I’m lying. But you’re still a spaz.
Dayamn, that Ruby was a grabbable looking woman! ROWF!
I’m lying. But you’re still a spaz.
I can tell.
Your browser is open.
WTF is spaz ?
Well, Apollo 13 did have a bigger budget and a longer production schedule.
The canonical way in stagecraft/stuntcraft to clear an area of chairs for a fight is to have the actor sit with their ankles well underneath the chair and with the balls of their feet flat on the floor. This puts their thighs and calves into a sideways-v shape (>) with the edge of the chair right behind the joint of the knee. A rapid stand from this seated position with a forceful straightening of the legs can fling a chair a fair distance. In a television studio it is possible to help this process with transparent fishing line. In any event the chair ends up on its back a good distance away from where it started.
I’m not sure I remember the exact setup before the fight, but if it wasn’t Trip’s chair then it was a fault of the director that it was in the way. Another of the rules of fight coreography is that you don’t have more props/scenery on the stage than the absolute minimum. If you need to prep the scene with a barmaid going around in the background and stacking the chairs on tables or what have you(it was last call, I do remember that) to get them out of the way, then that’s what you do.
Basically, the kind of stunt Trip had to do was, probably(I’d have to see the scene again to tell) a result of poor direction/planning. If it was Archer or Robinson’s chair then they would have been responsible for clearing it, either with the method mentioned above or some other way(one of my favorite ways of removing offending chairs during a fight scene is to have one character throw it at the other and have the target dodge/duck. Plays hell with the props though and propmasters get annoyed easily). Tons of ways to accomplish that goal without resorting to something that requires an actor to do the kind of stunt you described.
Enjoy,
Steven
mtgman - that’s some pretty interesting stuff, thanks!
I may have gotten this wrong, since it happnened in a split second… As I recall, I THINK it was Archer’s chair; Trip was on his left, and as he stood up, he stepped to the right, leaving his chair standing.
Trip then pulled the chair away with his right hand, as he jumped out of the shot, and Archer and Robinson moved away to the opposite side of the table for their fisticuffs.
Though, as I say, it’s possible I’m mis-remembering. I’d hate to accuse these guys of being bigger goofballs than they actually are, just because I was paying half-assed attention.