Aes, I think K’Penvin actually liked this episode. Reread his posts.
The one thing that many Trek Dopers posting here seem to forget (re: this ep) is that the Xindi attacking Enterprise were rogue. NOT authorized.
Also, The future guy told Quantum last season, that someone from the future told the Xindi of Earthers wiping them out. So… they really want to know about humans.
Is Enterprise representative of Earthers in general?
Do Earthers have some sort of technology that can be evolved into a species killer?
Knowing the possible outcome of your battle with Earthers, wouldn’t you like to have intelligence concerning them?
Since Enterprise is right close, STUDY THEM! Don’t blow them up til you have enough info.
Remember, the Xindi are fearing the EXTINCTION of their entire race. That’s part of this arc. The arc set up by Future Guy. All Qs of tactics and reasons and backstory needs to keep this in mind.
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i missed it and will have to catch it on rerun or the dl.
Ok, I forgot. Yes, the Xindi should care about why the humans want to exterminate them. It just seemed like they were jumping the gun by blasting Earth without having first studied them so that now not blowing them up seemed out of character.
However the “Xindi Council” might be just a rogue group themselves and don’t want to call attention to the “Real Xindi Council” who would spank them. Similarly the Reptiles and Insectoids do their snatch-and-grab of their Rajiin-plant and don’t want to do too much and be spanked by their “Xindi Council”.
Besides, they need someone on whom to test their bio-weapon. And they’ll need to do Test1, Test2, etc. until they make it work just right. And maybe they’ll need to put in some RNA-virus that attacks human DNA, just to be sure that another Ur-quat-like situation doesn’t occur. And maybe Phlox will develop a retro-virus that counteracts the bio-weapon. And maybe the retro-virus infects the Xindi and wipes them out and goes on to transform the Enterprise crew into 1960’s style hairdos and miniskirts, and … [sub]maybe I went too far[/sub]
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*Originally posted by Corner Case *
[ul][li]Nice that the Merchant was bought off by common spices vs. Warp Plasma.[/ul][/li][/QUOTE]
Yes, I forgot this bit. This was really clever. “On my planet,” says Trip, “wars were fought over these.” I almost murmured out loud: holy cow, good writing. What show am I watching again?
kingpengvin’s comments are valid, though. Like I said before, the running-firefight tactics employed by the show seem more like 20th-century SWAT-in-a-building than 22nd-century commando-on-spaceship, and that’s a serious failure of imagination. For example, if I were the Xindi boarders, here’s how I’d attack:[ul][li]After forcibly docking (i.e. throwing across the grapples), blow the airlock as we saw[]But I don’t have anybody waiting; instead, I scan the interior for defenders[]If there’s anyone there, my docking ring opens to space, venting the target corridor and killing the defenders[]Alternatively, if the target corridor hasn’t been sealed off with bulkheads (as apparently it wasn’t), fly in remote drones that move at high speed and penetrate the ship as far as possible before detonating[]Boarders go in wearing EVA suitsSue for surrender, as Enterprise is now crippled and helpless[/ul]By contrast, Enterprise can attempt to repel the boarders by pre-venting the corridor, or by turning off gravity to hinder their movement, as I said before. And for Pete’s sake, close some bulkheads, willya? It’s like the bad guys are invading a college dorm.[/li]
But these are nitpicks; Trek has never been any good at military tactics and the like. Remember the immortal moment from TNG where Picard sees a laser beam coming and ducks out of the way? Neo’s got nuthin’ on Cap’n Baldy, I guess. “Whoa. I move faster than the speed of light.”
Maybe I’m being too kind because the show is usually so crummy, but like I said, I was actually entertained this time.
I’m not sure what happened either, but remember, Hoshi is a cunning linguist.
that is also what Hoshi’s girlfriend says…
Shame on you, Chuck.
Tars is gonna beat your ass.
[sub]Whew, glad I didn’t submit that one about “What does the dyslexic Tarzan say about a prostitute?” … {clicks on the Back button}[/sub]
Doesn’t seem like he’s too fond of it to me. A C is average… a C- would be only incrementally better than being below average.
Ah I had misread that as “I (KP) am jumping up and down on my puppy while eating Oreos™”
My bad.
Plugging my thread about Jake 2.0
Is that an Edgar Rice Burroughs thing?
Lord Greystoke…I don’t get it.
Did Rajiin do the bioscan of T’Pol because Vulcans are Earth’s allies and the Xindi might want to destroy anyone who might assist Earth?
If you’re not able to see it on Wed. night, tape it if possible. Maybe that counts for something; I’m not sure how they figure out how many people are watching. Do they still only go by Nielsen boxes?
Speaking of which, I don’t understand why the folks at Trek Today are saying that the ratings dropped sharply on ENT because of the Smallville premiere. It looks as if the numbers on “Rajiin” are the same as they were last week–which is still a few points higher than it had been last spring.
Would it help to move ENT to Tuesday nights when it would have no genre competition, or would it just confuse people and TiVo if they can’t find it?
Aes, I sent your tape this morning and am starting another for you tonight.
corner case, et. al., if you missed the link for writing/emailing bigwigs and sponsors to support ENT, here it is again:
http://www.triphammered.com/support.shtml
No, it’s just a bad play-on-words. Tarzan would say to a prostitute, “She hoe”. A dyslexic one would say, “Hoe, she.”
Keep your day job, Corner.
Man, Tarzan hires prostitutes to do his gardening? What an ape!
Enough Tarzan (Tarzan Tarkas?) , let’s get back to the topic at hand, that is Hoshi, and T’Pol’s PJ’s.