Enterprise Xindi spoilers

Yep – avid 24 addict here. Maybe they should get Keifer to play the leader of the space marine unit. And I’m always saying that phrase (“Please disrobe”) to Kim… :::sigh:::

As for the T’Panda… damn!
“Harder… harder… Just like that. Please continue.”

You’d think he was giving her Vulcilingus.

Anybody want to predict how long they will flirt around with this thing before actually having T’Pol and Tripp hook up?

Dude, you’re supposed to breach it, not just inspect it.

Or can you not load your photorp tubes? :dubious:

Patience, Aes. First you inspect (visually and tactile-y*), second you adjust, then you breach.

My quantum torpedos have a surprisingly high yield.

Think she does her kegel exercises?
*fingers, tongue, teeth, meklarn…

It looks like T’Pol was vulcanized for this season, her eyebrows are less curved now.

Judging from tonight’s episode, all you have to do is touch her back and she’s finished. Guess breaching is illogical.

Somehow her delivery of that line… “Just like that. Please continue.” – reminded me of Lilith (from Cheers/Frasier) in the heat of passion. :wink:

Cool! We’ve got alot more posting than last season.
Vulcanised?

must… resist… rubber… vulcan… joke

Why…why…why…couldn’t it have been Hoshi’s brother who died?

Then she would have been having bad dreams and she would have needed a cure for insomnia…

And, dammit, we could have had the greatest scene in television history!!!

Well, I’m hooked.

Observations

theme bad, sound like Brian Adams on meth rogering Cheryl Crow

PANDA good; T’Pol look tired but when bare, like sexy vigorous love muscles

Malcolm effete and looking to wear red shirt soon

allegory like 2x4 to head re: US current situation

Archer finally act Captain, minus girdle

Anti-Starfleet bad, especially swimming proto-foe of Aquaman

What was the deal with the alien council anyway? Insects, lizard men, fish people, wolf boys. What do they call themselves? The League of Ugly Aliens? Didn’t anyone ever tell the scriptwriters they can wring some drama out of villians who don’t necessarilly look evil?

And considering that the Enterprise had spend weeks in a futile search for information about the Xindi, didn’t Archer consider there might be some useful evidence in the remnants of their homeworld? Maybe he could have spend a day or two looking for clues instead of flying away at full speed in a random direction.

Archer’s technique would make for an interesting episode of CSI. They’d find a body. Grissom would come to the crime scene to find out clues about the killer. He’d take one look at the corpse and say “This guy can’t tell us anything. He’s dead for God’s sake. Let’s all go back to Vegas and run up and down the streets until we find the murderer.”

Sheesh…I posted from work on a dinosaur Mac and it ate my post…I said that I got Cervaise’s little A.I. joke, mainly.

Anyhow…Hey, this ep. was good! Cool stuff happened, lots of action, and even the dialogue was better. The Panda scene was funny (“No, no, no, no. Not at all.”) But I’m leery of that Vulcan neuropressure. Sure looks like Ferengi umauks to me.

Best implication: Creepy asthmatic alien guy gives Archer the finger! Okay, a finger. Still.

Best line: “Try not to breathe.”

Overused line from earlier season: “Something doesn’t smell right.” (Malcolm got it from Archer.)

They should have put those two together:
“Something doesn’t smell right.”
“Try not to breathe.”

I miss Kn*ckers.

viva: glad you mentioned AI re Cervaise. (It’s not branded sycophancy when others enjoy the “teddy reference.”)

I look forward to a good season, just hope Revolt leads to reinstatement of old theme music. See Mr. B earlier post.

Oh, I also liked the “haunted” cargo bay.
And Archer’s gotten over the severe weeneritis he had suffered for nearly two years.

Just finished it (on tape; was elsewhere earlier).

And, um, not to nitpick, but… Did anything actually happen in the show?

I mean, there was a lot of running around, and Cap’n looking manly, and the copious shooting of ray guns (and no I am not going there) and Trip bein’ disturbed and Travis not sayin’ a freakin’ word and yet another dark murky location in which dumbass Cap’n gets trapped and needs to be rescued again (Rocky: “A-gaaiiiin?”) and a bunch of aliens with bumpy foreheads and did anything actually happen?

What do we learn? Weird stuff happens in the Delphic Expanse. Check. We knew that going in. So maybe we haven’t had any “anatomically inverted” people, even though in last year’s season finale we were told a shipload of Vulcans hadn’t been in the Expanse more than a couple of hours before they’d gone all Aerosmith-in-a-hotel-room on each other, whereas Archer and crew have been there six whole weeks (according the clumsiest exposition scene yet, and that’s saying something: “Hey Malcolm, I’m gonna ask you some really obvious questions so we can catch the audience up. Just stand there and act surly”) and the only thing that’s happened is they’ve got a pile of boxes zooming back and forth in a cargo bay like they’re trying to convince JoBeth Williams not to pull her daughter out of that glowing closet. New information? Nope.

Okay, so what did they accomplish? Their whole objective is that they want to find the Xindi homeworld. They have a lead on a guy. They track him down but it doesn’t go well and he dies and what he tells them seems promising but they go there and what they find doesn’t actually tell them anything. So off they go, back to square one. By the way, a question: They travel at warp five. They get from the mine planet to what they think will be the homeworld pretty quickly. Then Archer says, “Let’s go deeper.” (Which makes me think of Jurgen Prochnow in Das Boot — “Tiefer… tiefer…”) How far are they in now, anyway? Is there any consistency to the stellar geography (to mix my terms)?

But we’re not done yet: we gotta have the panda. I laughed at “please disrobe,” but I was rolling my eyes at the same time.

Oh, and Malcolm’s still an insecure whiner, which is getting really old, since it’s his only real character dimension. One of these days Archer is going to order him to place a security detail around his own self-esteem so he doesn’t lose control of it entirely.

Anyway, I guess I’m wondering what, exactly, was accomplished in this episode? The only things that were different about this show, the only stuff we hadn’t seen already, were (1) the space marines, who were kind of eh, and (2) the alien council, which was kind of eh? At least the alien council scene gives us the sense that the writers actually have a plot point they’ll be driving toward this season, the lack of which has been one of my biggest complaints, so the reassurance that they aren’t just makin’ this shit up as they go is in my opinion a very good thing. But the aliens’ design just isn’t very creatively inspiring: Otter guy? Manatee dude? And a big freakin’ bug? Convergent evolution, anybody? There better be a rockin’ cool explanation for this.

Bottom line: Tonally, interesting, with the kind of dark, grungy feeling that’s been missing from Trek since DS9, but the characters are still lacking, and I fail to see what they’re driving at in terms of the new arc. But the fact that they seem to actually have something in mind is enough to keep me hanging on for another couple of weeks.

We’ll see if I make it through the insane zombie Vulcans, though. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I guess I’m wondering what, exactly, was accomplished in this episode?

Vulcan Boobies.

I think the whole point was that they were Delphic-expanse aliens, and that the expanse weirds evolution. But maybe it will turn out that they’re not all expanse aliens, and they are just going for the scary villain thing.

Cervaise: They did accomplish more than you let on. I would say that (1) there are five species of Xindi and (2) the Xindi homeworld was destroyed 120 years ago are pretty big clues.

As for the spatial geometry, I don’t think that they’re really trying for consistency, and I fully expect them to screw it up soon, but I don’t think they have so far. The expanse is 2000 light-years across, so there’s plenty of space to explore without going deep into it. Archer says they’ve been in there for six weeks, but they probably weren’t just travelling in a straight line the whole time. They were probably looking around for inhabited worlds, maybe going from star to star until they found something.

Fantastic episode, though I despise what they did to the theme song. I loved it the way it was.

I’m begging someone, please tell me what “Panda” is supposed to mean on this thread? I feel I’m missing something.

:eek:

I have no idea, being a newcomer myself, but I read the word panda to mean pandering.

Although it started to sound like “forced sexual situations” in some of the posts. Sort of like how they try to get pandas to reproduce, despite the pandas’ decided lack of interest.

T’Pol:" Mr Tripp? Are you sure that’s decon gel?"

Another Fine Episode ™

Good :

  • TPol’s red catsuit
  • TPols jammies
  • TPol’s jammies off *
  • Scary alien syndicate, with not only the Starship Troopers bugs but a FISH too! How cool is that ! Like Finding Nemo !
  • No Wesley Crusher
  • Space marines who like to kick the shit out of people before shooting them in the face
    Bad :
    Can’t think of anything.
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