Well…there is that voice ;).
But anyone who can make “the Citizen Kane of alcoholic clown movies” is alright in my book.
Well…there is that voice ;).
But anyone who can make “the Citizen Kane of alcoholic clown movies” is alright in my book.
It’s a big rock. I’ve always liked the guy.
She may have grown out of it (in fact, probably has), but back in the day Drew Barrymore was the public darling, and giant pain in the ass to deal with. I think early fame and the family dynasty went to her head.
I don’t know if I’d say hated, but Keanu Reeves rarely gets much respect as an actor - but apparently he’s just as sweet as pie, and well-loved by everyone on set.
I’m surprised so many of you know who is liked by insiders. For example a lot of the public (including myself) don’t like Adam Sandler–but certainly not the majority as he wouldn’t get such high salaries if that were true–but I have no idea how insiders feel about him.
John Wick has really turned the ship around on him. The general line is, “He may be limited to one kind of role…but man does he knock it out of the park.”
As for Fallon I want to defend him a little. He did quite well I thought in “Fever Pitch” though thats not a well received movie and he’s really an accomplished impressionist.
This feels to me like the difficult side of the question - the one that’s harder to know the answer to. The ones who are popular with the public but nasty to the people they work with seem easier to spot accurately. When the insider point of view is a generally good one, it’s less likely to spill into public view.
Plus I’m no insider and I can tell from over here that Neil Diamond seems like a good guy. Does being out of fashion really constitute public dislike?
Absolutely agree. +1
My pick is Justin Bieber.
It requires much less than a majority of fans to pay to see his movies to pay his salary. I mean, back in his box office heyday, maybe 20 million people bought tickets to his top movies. There are people here who brag about never having seen one of his movies or even knowing who he is or what he looks like. It’s like when the Spice Girls sold 10 million albums but no one knew anyone who bought it. It is plausible, because that’s hundreds of millions of Americans and billions in the world who didn’t.
Ugh, god, I don’t know why. He’s the worst interviewer in the history of late night. Way too juvenile and always talks over his guests.
The only reason I watch him is he’s the least political host on Late Night. I watch late night to get away from that stuff. He makes political jokes, but they’re funny, not mean-spirited.
Gilbert Gottfried
If you include athletes a lot of the general public didn’t like Roger Maris, Dick Allen or Roger Clemens but most of their peers did
Andy Kaufmann? I know people loved his character on Taxi, but they disliked his appearances on Saturday Night Live so much that he’s the only actor I know who got voted off the show in a popular poll. A lot of people liked his act, but I think more of them hated it. Yet he seemed well-liked by a lot of comedians.
I get the feeling that he’d be voted off SNL because his very strange style didn’t fit the show, more than people actually disliking him. Maybe I’m wrong. I think he was extremely respectful to the audience in a very unusual fashion; it seems to me that he didn’t try to pump up the audience’s self-esteem or lead them step by step through his thought process - that he did what he did and there it was - and maybe that lack of “strokes” from the performer made people uncomfortable. I feel weird watching some of it anyway. It really is funny to mess with people, but watching while someone messes with me and knowing how funny it is that I’m the one being messed with, is definitely unnerving. OK, I’ve just thoroughly confused myself - I think somewhere Andy Kaufmann is smiling that weird smile.
But whether he thought he was being respectful of the audience isn’t at all the point. I think that he got voted off because people hated the act.
It’s not as if people hated the guy himself, and you could quibble that therefore the people didn’t hate “him”, but the audience almost never does know the person. The act’s all they have to go by.
I don’t know about “hated”, but I don’t think I’ve ever met a Jeff Beck fan. And yet, I’ve seen interviews with scores of pros who think he’s the best in the business - or was in his prime.
Kaufman was presented as a comedian but his act was not about getting laughs it was about getting a reaction. To him getting people to hate him because of a sexist tirade was just as good as getting people to love him as a hilarious comedian. Other comedians loved it because he was playing with audience expectations which not all audiences appreciated.
Many musicians seem to like Yoko Ono as an avant guard artist, but most of the public hate her as either the person who broke up the Beatles or a talentless shrieker.
What am I, chopped liver?
I am a huge Jeff Beck fan - the best IMHO.
I don’t know about others, but I based my statement on the fact that I interacted with many of these people for several years, socially or at work. Those I didn’t interact with directly, I heard about because I was in a position to talk to people who knew.
I didn’t personally like Drew Barrymore, so I’m happy to dish on her. Others I do like, and I won’t discuss.
Another person that I just thought of is Betty White. People seem to love her and I can tell you that she’s a flat out bitch; very talented but nasty.
I was, in fact, going to name you as a resident Beck fan.
In the case of Beck, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone hating him, so much as most music fans (particularly in the U.S.) having no idea who he is. (Which would be a topic for another thread, and I have to imagine that we’ve done that topic at least once in Cafe Society.)
You think you’re the best Jeff Beck fan?