It was on the front page of ALL local newspapers.
But what analysis is needed really? It’s just a local crime story – though a particularly heinous one.
I don’t know about Fox, but it definitely made CNN and has been on the “front” page of their U.S. website for days.
I don’t think anyone is claiming it’s a common thing, nor that it is nothing to worry about. It is clearly not a new thing, however.
I previously referenced an incident in Spring, Texas a few years ago that was every bit as horrific, if not more so. I can look up some links if need be.
I agree with you except the part you got factually incorrect. You did see my point.
In all fairness, I was never confused. 
I think Chique has a point though. That the US (or the handful of countries that are vying against it) is a better, safer and more moral place than any country in history was even 50 years ago. Sure maybe contemporary Sweden or Japan can compete with it but not their mid-twentieth century counterparts.
…just a local crime story? Really? Is the US gone that far?
Jez… that sounds like … well I don’t even have words for this. THIS is normal? Really?
“analized” ? 
It’s gotten a lot of press, online and everywhere else. Last night I was talking about this with some people. It has not gone unnoticed or under reported
Apparently…Gang Rape is a common thing in US. If this is your moral high ground, then I have to say “No, thank you”
Safe? I have not heard of any other 1st world countries, where people getting killed as regular as in the US.
Better? So when I get sick, I have to worry about loosing my house, car and everything else I posses? Even though I got health insurance.
Moral? A Gang Rape is just another local crime story…
I really don’t know what your problem is, or what you’re trying to prove. But gang rape is NOT common here. You can’t judge by what a newspaper 1000 miles away prints. They serve the local readership in some other town.
No hatred like hatred of the U.S.
Listen, you fucking moron. Nobody is saying gang rape is ok.
My main bitch comes from the fear that two dozen high school boys could just hang around and watch without lifting a finger to make a cell phone call. I’d like to know how that’s possible and while I accept the influence of the bystander effect I believe there’s more to it then that.
I may have had an unusual upbring in the 50s and 60s in southern Ontario and while I endured considerable crap, there still was a lot of “Leave it to Beaver” in my life and in the lives of my peers.
The times they are a changing. For the good and for the bad. It just seems the good gets better while the bad gets worse. While many parents and educators teach morals such as anti racism, acceptance of gays and other more conventional morals, they can employ very little enforcement or control. Yet the teen is bombarded with messages by the professional teen culture industry that portrays violence against women and degrades them as well. Add some drugs to the mix and you can imagine what’s normal today in the minds of many of our young.
If you think I’m barking up the wrong tree, imagine this.
What if the record labels put out a popular cd by white artists putting down niggers instead of hos ?
Here’s a more detailed link talking about Sweden’s decision about 10 years ago to compensate those women who were involuntarily sterilized. Those who were “voluntarily” sterilized didn’t get compensation. I put “voluntarily” in quotes because in many cases, sterilization was made a condition of getting out of prison, or getting welfare, or keeping child custody, and pressure was brought to bear on these women to consent:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
Canada: #5
USA: #9
Obviously skewed by incidences reported, but whatever.
My generation rapes less than any other generation in history. Basically, knock this shit off, okay?
I’m sorry, what? Are you blaming this on rap music?
You mean like them?
I’m not sure where you’re going with the comparison. So you’re saying it’s the music industry’s fault marketing anti-women messages to today’s youth? Hasn’t this debate been going on since like the 1970s?
Every time this story comes on CNN I have to change the channel because I find it so infuriating, so I don’t know all the details. But seriously we need a push for legislation to stiffly punish this sort of bystander. I accept that some people are so evil and pathetic that they will do things like this, but I’d like to think that in civil society these sorts of heinous crimes have to be committed in the dark and hidden from the public. To think that there wasn’t a single human reaction or a grain of moral strength from the crowd, that hits hard.
While this is a terrible crime all around, I’m amazed that the foreigners who have no idea how large the US is geographically and population-wise are coming out of the woodwork again.
If we’re talking about Ireland, it’s about 300 miles from the northern tip of the country to the southern tip. If you start at the northen tip of the US in Maine and go 300 miles, you’ll make it to New Hampshire. That leaves 48 other states and around 306 million other people.
Someone is, at least
Actually, I’d rather have lived in Sweden than the USA in 1959, seeing as how I am a product of miscegenation. I’ll give you Japan, though.
It’s rather a pointless argument to make, though. In 2009, relative to its industrialized peers, the USA is not inarguably the “best, safest, and most moral” place in the world.
And it’s hardly a “handful of countries” that the US is being measured against. There are 37 other nations which the UN classifies in 2009 as having Very High Human Development alongside the US, with a combined population of 687 million. And the US is only 13th on that list (Ireland is #5 ;)).
:dubious: If you say so…
Well, then. I still find this quote of yours:
to be rather repulsive in nature. Morality and compassion are not zero-sum games.