mswas, you’re starting to sound like curlcoat when she talks about UHC…
So - the US us unique. So therefore, no comparisons can be made to other nations? I have been the only one in this thread supplying a wealth of statistical data, and all you can do is hand-wave it away and say the US is an anomaly? I’m not the one who’s arguing poorly here.
And I did compare Ireland to Indiana in Post 89, per kidchameleon’s suggestion. Since you asked nicely, here you go for IRE vs. MA:
The last big thing like the “Fritzle” incident in Austria was big news here.
So yes, a 2 hours gang rape on school grounds with bystanders would be BIG News.
shrug You’re just going to have to trust me when I say that I’m one of the last people on the planet who would argue for American exceptionalsim.
That wasn’t the argument I was trying to make - in fact, I wasn’t trying to argue anything that you think I was.
Look, I can only care about approximately 3,812 things at a time. The media and its headlines is trying to tell me I should care about this one abhorrent rape just a little bit more. Why should I? It’s impossible for me to care about 3,813 things at once; there’s nothing I could have done to prevent it; I don’t know any of the participants so I can’t smack them in the head for being stupid and cruel; we already have laws in place to deal with the justice-related bits; and hopefully the victim will be able to pay for her medical and mental health bills (an iffy hope, really, but still).
On the flip side 4,000 kids die from diarrhea each day. I already lobby my congressional representatives to change foreign policy in that general direction; I donate to organizations who operate in that area (not a lot because I’m poor, but still…); and try to keep myself informed on the subject (which, frankly, isn’t as easy as you’d think it would be - there are many more column inches printed about this one single rape then there has been on bad water in developing nations for the past six months).
IF there were 10 gang rapes in every state in the Union every day? Yeah, I’d bump something off the bottom of my “I Care” list and add this to it. Until that happens, however, this statistical outlier is going to have to be content with being stuck into a category labeled “Poverty: Urban: American: And why no one gives a shit about kids living in it until they finally do something big enough to make CNN”.
