Seeing him panicking enough to scurry (well, shuffle strongly) into the Situation Room with some high-ranking minions to try (and fail) to flip some GOP votes on the release makes me think he knows there’s some really bad shit that’s poised to be revealed, bad enough that he’s convinced it will do some real damage.
This gladdens my libtard commie woke heart.
And to think this might not be happening if Trump hadn’t opened his mouth in front of the cameras in May with his “why are you talking about Epstein, nobody cares about him, there are no files and the Democrats made the files up and the files prove I’m innocent” rant.
I think I misunderstand you. A pardon specifically cannot be used in cases of impeachment.
Article II, Section 2
and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
Add to that, the Senate is historically hesitant to convict someone already out of office although the rules state they can do so since they could add on the added punishment of never holding office again (the Belknap case). Resigning has always been dealt with as a way to avoid conviction.
Impeachment is likely to be the least of his worries if the files get out.
There’s a reason for the saying about the Republicans that “Every accusation is a confession”. They accuse their opponents of corruption, pedophilia and treason because so many of them are treasonous corrupt pedophiles. They’re just projecting their own behavior onto others.
I think the reason they are frantically trying to stop release of the files is that the DOJ has not finished the job of removing every single trace of Trump from them. They have had them for so long that everything in them is already corrupted. If they can keep delaying until the files are effectively cleaned, Trump can then release them himself and say “fine, here they are, total exoneration!”. But if they are released before the job is done, his supporters won’t believe anything that was missed in the cleanup and will cry “fake news!”. Either way he will win. He’d just rather do it the easy (criminal) way.
Unless they can go back in time to before today’s emails were released, I don’t think “total exoneration” is on the table anymore.
ETA: On which note, Trump spent Thanksgiving of 2017 with Epstein.
Sixty-six. It’s a veto override, not a cloture vote.
That’s an easy one. Some leaker added Trump’s name in an email. Per Karoline Leavitt, anything that has been leaked is all part of the hoax.
The problem is, this isn’t a “leak”. These emails came directly from the House Oversight Committee and were released by its Republican majority.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5602294-epstein-documents-oversight-republicans-release/
If James Comer is now part of the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy, then they’ve lost the plot.
The reason they’re not releasing the files isn’t “so they have time to take Trump’s name out of them”. It’s because he’s so thoroughly tied up in it that he can’t be removed from them. “Epstein met Virginia Giuffre at [REDACTED]’s Palm Beach estate ███-█-████) isn’t going to fool anyone. It’s now clear that he was visiting Epstein and was in communication with him much later than Trump claims and we’re past the point where that can be plausibly denied.
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Hey… Still curious about this, and wouldn’t want to start a new thread as there’s probably a simple answer. (i.e. He’s a dirtbag and you can’t trust anyone).
He was writing a very unflattering book about Trump and wanted all the dirt he could get on him, so he did what he could to get as much info from Epstein (a very close friend) and had 100 hours of interviews with the man. The book ended up being a #1 bestseller and spawned 3 sequels, so it did the job. I’m not sure what else you’d need to know.
He was an opportunist, but Wolff hit the jackpot with a lot of the info he got from Trump’s people (especially from Bannon).
I truly appreciate the response. I just find it odd that, in trying to act the part, that he’d go so far as to try to influence Epstein’s actions on this particular issue. I suppose it feels like he’s trying to affect some outcome, as opposed to taking more of a backseat, in this particular instance, due to wanting it purely Epstein motivated with as little bias as possible. I suppose that type of relationship and that type of (lack of) involvement is not easy while still trying to seem authentic?
I suspect you are right. Trump is shameless and has had control of them for a long time, if it was easy as cutting out some mentions of him that would have been done and the files released a long time ago. The implications of his behavior are that there’s something in there he really doesn’t want to get out (as others have said I suspect it’s something he finds humiliating rather than a legal issue), and that removing it without making the gaps obvious is impractical. Him surrounding himself with incompetents probably doesn’t help, either.
Honestly, the surprising thing is that they haven’t been simply outright destroyed. I suspect somebody, somewhere has a copy Trump doesn’t control or he’d have done that. It certainly isn’t because he has any sort of scruples.
I don’t think any branch of the government would conceivably bring him up on charges and he’s too full of himself to ever resign. The nation has stagnation and a newly nasty mix of hatred going on. Yet I don’t think enough residents here want to see him resign, seemingly since the election only happened a year ago.
I think the best purpose is to get an image that will adhere to the minds of potential swing voters. If the Democrats and more left-wingers can help me continue lighting up a malevolent image of the administration for the ‘26 elections, I’m inclined to be suitably grateful for that.
Naturally I would have wanted for Trump to be imprisoned for his crimes before his election. It’s too bad the legal system couldn’t flush him down the sump hole before 11/24.
Don’t we already know she met him there?
And Giuffre effectively said in her book that she did not have sex with DJT. Maybe — probably — it was out of fear of the most powerful man in the world, but there’s no way to prove it.
But if there is something much more in the document, Bondi’s people will destroy it.
What if Document A references Document B, and B is missing? GOP senators are not going to hand the White House to Vance over that.
Two unconnected things:
The first is that, over at Breitbart comments section, some are now testing out the argument that it isn’t pedophilia if she’s sexually mature. I would pay real money to see Trump or Leavitt say that on TV.
The second is that it’s long been reported that a great many Republicans don’t actually like Trump. Maybe there’s a wing within the party that hopes this is the thing that frees them from him?
Maybe. But that begs the question of why they haven’t already destroyed it. I’d have expected it to be “accidentally lost” long ago; something has kept them from doing so. Thus my speculation that somebody Trump doesn’t control has a copy.
As of this morning over on Fox “News”, you still have to go down a bit to get a mention of Epstein. The first article is about a former prince. Next one down the page is about an ex-Clinton cabinet secretary. Can you find an article about Trump being in any of the documents? Nope.
The reaction from the right is to shove their fingers in their ears and say “I CAN’T HEAR YOU!”
There have got to be photos of trump doing it or getting done at one of these parties. Some enterprising person with an eye on their future retirement had to know such pics would be worth a king’s ransom (hehe) some day. Are they just waiting for the right moment to get the most bang (I can’t help myself) for their buck?