Here are the statements of this whackjob who justifies his pro-life stance by killing others.
Don’t take this pitting the wrong way. Many pro-life people are sane, law-abiding individuals, and with them I have no problem, although their views and mine aren’t in congruity.
The ultimate “fuck you” of his plea bargain is that it took the death penalty off the table. He kills a law enforcement officer, partially blinds a nurse, injures 120 people, and places IEDs designed to kill police and firemen, and is allowed to plead out of a capital sentence.
Now I’ve gotta pay for this asshole’s three hots and a cot. Justice, this isn’t.
[pet peeve]Oh, bullshit. “you” don’t pay anything to incarcerate Eric Rudolph, your per capita share you pay in taxes for his three hots and a cot is only a tiny fraction of a penny.
Anyone who makes any type of argument along those lines (“my money goes towards that losers food stamps”) bugs the hell out of me. It’s not YOUR money. It’s the government’s money.
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I believe the only reason Eric Rudolph isn’t facing the gurney right now with our current administration is because he targeted abortion clinics. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least bit if Bush offered him clemency on the 11th hour on the last day of his term. :smack:
The plea agreement saved you the cost of a trial and potentially many appeals. Also part of the agreement was that Rudolph revealed where he had stashed some 250 pounds of explosives.
I remember when the local TV station sent a crew out to the mountains to interview some of the people in the town where Rudolph was captured. While no one would admit to helping him, the people being interviewed said they really didn’t see that he had done anything wrong; after all, the people in the abortion clinics and at the gay bar were the real sinners. :rolleyes:
“38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”
Now, I’ve read that three times now, and I’m positive it doesn’t say:
“39 But I say unto you, screw that shit: whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, blow the fuck up.”
But perhaps there’s a New Wingnut Edition that I haven’t read yet.
I was in Atlanta for the Olympics during the bombing. The company I worked for at the time was a sponser and we had great deals on tickets. I didn’t get to go to any of the high profile things, but I did get to see some of the smaller events. We looke forward to it for months. It was almost worth it just to experience the whole Olympic atmosphere. Then we get back to our host’s house (we had driven down from Charlotte, NC) only to find out about that crap. The let down was beyond my powers of description. It was truly awful. That the day could start so happy and end in such tragedy was just horrific.
I’d say Rudolph is an asshole except even assholes serve a purpose (releasing waste and all). I’d say he’s a shit except even shit is the remnants of something that was once good. He’s beyond description.
Why is someone who bombs abortion clinics (along with other murders) more deserving of the death penalty than the other people on death row for the murder of innocent victims?
I thought we had long since decided that the death penalty was bad. Is it only good if the perp is a radical right winger, or am I missing something?
He’s not more deserving. Nobody is deserving of the death penalty, no matter how heinous their crimes.
Right. Because there’s never, ever any debate about the death penalty on this board. At all. We’re also dead solid on abortion and the exsistence of God.
Jesus Christ, dude, if you want to accuse someone of hypocrisy, find a specific quote by danceswithcats or Mr. Blue Sky (the only two posters who have voiced disappointment at Rudolph’s sentence so far) where they’ve opposed the death penalty on principle. If you can’t do that, then, as you so eloquently said in another thread, shut the fuck up.
I’m not accusing anyone of hypocrisy. Without digging up umpteen thousand cites, I’d say that this board was generally against the death penalty. Yet, in some instances, it seems as though the death penalty is perfectly fine. Not accusations of hypocrisy, just trying to grasp when the death penalty is accepted.
But as you have so eloquently pointed out, it never is. So I take it that I’m wrong.
And I have read many of the debates here over the death penalty, I guess you could say that’s where I came to realize that, by and large, this board was against the death penalty.
I have not mentioned abortion, or God. Not sure where you are going with that, in my “Shut the fuck up” post I think I mentioned I’m not religious, and I don’t think I’ve ever offered my views of abortion on this board.
Aside from the posters you’ve mentioned, ( neither one seemed adverse to capital punishment) a few otherPostswherecapitalpunishment is deemed appropriate.
And since one of the linked threads was also about Rudolph, and also has instances of posters (other than those in this thread) who feel capital punishment is OK in this instance, I’ll close with, “Shut the fuck up”.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if this guy bombs a women’s clinic, presumably there are pregnant women there, right? Some come in for abortions, but some may be there for health reasons. If these women are killed in the bombing, didn’t Rudolph kill their unborn children?
The death penalty is an easy out. I hope he gets to be someone’s bitch. Some huge, scary dude with tattoos and piercings and the biggest pair of man breasts in the joint.
Yeah, it may be that the board is “generally” against the death penalty. If so, that would be because the majority of the individuals who post here are against the death penalty. And I would wager that those posters who are against the death penalty on principle, are also against having the death penalty applied to Eric Rudolph.
However, not everyone who posts here has exactly the same opinion. Some people who post here actually support the death penalty. danceswithcats and Mr. Blue Sky, judging by their posts here, are two such posters. I imagine there are all sorts of scenarios where they think the death penalty is appropriate. Even to people who aren’t abortion clinic bombers or radical right wingers.
So, if you want to find out under what circumstances the death penalty is “perfectly fine,” you’ll have to ask every single individual poster who has an opinion on the death penalty. The board itself does not have an opinion on the matter. The board is a piece of software that provides all these people a forum to express those opinions.
That’s probably a safe assumption in general for you.
Well, Jesus, then why did I have to explain all that crap to you? There are debates about the death penalty on this board! Not everyone feels the same way about it! That’s why there are debates! So when a murderous fuck like Rudolph comes to trial, the people who are pro-death penalty are going to express their support for frying the rat bastard, and the people who are anti-death penalty are going to express their support for locking him up until he rots.
Honestly, this is not a hard concept.
You are very dim.
And I’m sure those posters still feel that people who are convicted of the premeditated murder of strangers deserve to be put to death. I don’t know why you think the political orientation of the murderer has any impact on that opinion. Unless you’re using this thread as an excuse to push some sort of agenda that you’re not quite bright enough to articulate plainly.